For Josh...(sigh)

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As I tried to get my brain to shut up so that I could pray this morning, my friend’s name popped into my head. Josh. I realized I’ve not been saying many prayers for him cuz I guess I’m a selfish jerk and I just plain have been forgetting. Haha. Anyway, Josh has made some rather foolish moves this past year, (Not judging, I’m no stranger to dumb decisions), but his dumb choices this year have landed him in more trouble than I think he realizes. My other friend and I believe he may have asperger’s syndrome. That’s not a joke, I mean literally we think he has it.
  1. Josh met a woman, Anna, from Indiana via internet. They spoke for about six months, I think.
  2. Josh flew from Maryland to Indiana to meet her.
  3. Josh had actually and secretly flown there to marry Anna.
    4.We later found out that Anna wanted to pay Josh to get her pregnant, (presumably without marriage.) He declined.
  4. Josh married and moved in with Anna and her mother from Indiana.
  5. Josh had to find a new job. He procured one at a video game store.
  6. He and his new wife got a new place in a cruddy apartment.
  7. Josh, who loves Pokemon, stole a Pokemon keychain from his store. He was immediately fired.
  8. Unable to afford the apartment, they moved back to Maryland with Josh’s parents. Josh found a job a shoe store.
  9. Josh finally and unwittingly got Anna pregnant.
  10. Suffering awful marital issues (Anna belittles and emasculates Josh on a regular basis) Anna moved back without Josh to Indiana to live with her mother.
    12.Josh quits his job and moves back to Indiana with her.
  11. Josh is now unemployed, living in a trailer with his estranged wife and mother-in-law. He timidly tries to ask her to stop drinking and smoking while pregnant, while she insults him for trying. She says she is excited about the baby and her mother smoked when she was pregnant with her as she turned out fine. She refuses to work or go to school.
The situation is so bad it would be fodder for a bad comedy movie. But this is all (unbelievably) real. Having typed all that out I’m ashamed I’ve not prayed more about this whole fiasco. My other friend and I don’t believe in divorce,( though my other friend’s wife just left with their kids and his cat died, and he is protestant so despite my urgings he will date after they are divorced, so pray for him too), but we both want to recommend it to him. I don’t see how this marriage is valid, it’s just so messed up. But Josh is protestant and wouldn’t seek an annulment after so, frankly I don’t know what to say to him.

Prayers and advice please,
 
I just said a prayer for Josh and your other friend. God bless you.
 
Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
 
Layp3rs0n said:
As I tried to get my brain to shut up so that I could pray this morning, my friend’s name popped into my head. Josh. I realized I’ve not been saying many prayers for him cuz I guess I’m a selfish jerk and I just plain have been forgetting. Haha. Anyway, Josh has made some rather foolish moves this past year, (Not judging, I’m no stranger to dumb decisions), but his dumb choices this year have landed him in more trouble than I think he realizes. My other friend and I believe he may have asperger’s syndrome. That’s not a joke, I mean literally we think he has it.
  1. Josh met a woman, Anna, from Indiana via internet. They spoke for about six months, I think.
  2. Josh flew from Maryland to Indiana to meet her.
  3. Josh had actually and secretly flown there to marry Anna.
    4.We later found out that Anna wanted to pay Josh to get her pregnant, (presumably without marriage.) He declined.
  4. Josh married and moved in with Anna and her mother from Indiana.
  5. Josh had to find a new job. He procured one at a video game store.
  6. He and his new wife got a new place in a cruddy apartment.
  7. Josh, who loves Pokemon, stole a Pokemon keychain from his store. He was immediately fired.
  8. Unable to afford the apartment, they moved back to Maryland with Josh’s parents. Josh found a job a shoe store.
  9. Josh finally and unwittingly got Anna pregnant.
  10. Suffering awful marital issues (Anna belittles and emasculates Josh on a regular basis) Anna moved back without Josh to Indiana to live with her mother.
    12.Josh quits his job and moves back to Indiana with her.
  11. Josh is now unemployed, living in a trailer with his estranged wife and mother-in-law. He timidly tries to ask her to stop drinking and smoking while pregnant, while she insults him for trying. She says she is excited about the baby and her mother smoked when she was pregnant with her as she turned out fine. She refuses to work or go to school.
The situation is so bad it would be fodder for a bad comedy movie. But this is all (unbelievably) real. Having typed all that out I’m ashamed I’ve not prayed more about this whole fiasco. My other friend and I don’t believe in divorce,( though my other friend’s wife just left with their kids and his cat died, and he is protestant so despite my urgings he will date after they are divorced, so pray for him too), but we both want to recommend it to him. I don’t see how this marriage is valid, it’s just so messed up. But Josh is protestant and wouldn’t seek an annulment after so, frankly I don’t know what to say to him.

Prayers and advice please,
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Prayers yes, but advice I would say a lot of this seems to be second hand info and boarders on gossip about Josh, his wife and all the rest. I think it would have been better to just ask for prayers on behalf of Josh, his wife and unborn baby and leave it at that. The person with the most to loose here is the baby being born into an unstable situation.
 
robwar said:
Prayers yes, but advice I would say a lot of this seems to be second hand info and boarders on gossip about Josh, his wife and all the rest. I think it would have been better to just ask for prayers on behalf of Josh, his wife and unborn baby and leave it at that. The person with the most to loose here is the baby being born into an unstable situation.
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Robwar, in retrospect I agree. I therefore repent. Moderator, please remove this thread. thank you.
 
Layp3rs0n said:
Robwar, in retrospect I agree. I therefore repent. Moderator, please remove this thread. thank you.
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Maybe instead of having the whole thread removed, u can PM a mod and ask if they can just edit it so that it just asks for prayers for Josh?

Anyway, I’ll say a prayer for him. :gopray:
 
Memorare to St. Joseph

Remember, O most chaste spouse of the Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who implored your help and sought your intercession were left unassisted.
Full of confidence in your power I fly unto you and beg your protection.
Despise not O Guardian of the Redeemer my humble supplication, but in your bounty, hear and answer me. Amen.
 
Hail Mary,
Full of grace,
The Lord is with Thee.
Blessed art Thou amoungst women,
And blessed is the fruit of Thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners,
Now and at the hour of death,
Amen
 
Our Father who art in heaven
Hallowed be thy name
Thy kingdom come
Thy will be done
On earth as it is in heaven
Give us this day our daily bread
And forgive us our trespasses
As we forgive those who trespass against us
Lead us not into temptation
But deliver us from evil
Amen.

Hail Mary, Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of death.
Amen.
 
***Hail Mary,
Full of Grace,
The Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit
of thy womb,
Jesus.
Holy Mary,
Mother of God,
pray for us sinners now,
and at the hour of our death
Amen.

:crossrc:***
 
Prayers…

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses,
As we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.
Blessed art thou among women
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God,
Pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.

Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit,
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be world without end. Amen.
 
Saint Michael, the archangel, defend us in battle, be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the devil, may God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do you, O’ Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God thrust into Hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who prowl about the world for the ruin of souls.

Amen.

†

Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be thy name.

Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on Earth as it is in Heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Amen.

†

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee.

Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb Jesus.

Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death.

Amen.

†
 
robwar said:
Prayers yes, but advice I would say a lot of this seems to be second hand info and boarders on gossip about Josh, his wife and all the rest. I think it would have been better to just ask for prayers on behalf of Josh, his wife and unborn baby and leave it at that. The person with the most to loose here is the baby being born into an unstable situation.
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If Josh truly has aspergers, I think it is appropriate to ask for advice, unless you are not really invested in your friendship with him. It is not that I don’t agree with robwar, but aspergers makes this situations particularly problematic for Josh, who is fortunate to have someone who cares about him.

Having a mild case of this myself, I understand some of the troubles it can bring, especially in the area of relationships. The best thing that you can do for Josh is prayer, yes, but also to encourage him to seek a diagnoses. If he has this condition, his judgement can be impaired in social situations. He might be easy to manipulate. Folks with aspergers tend to be smart, so if he becomes aware of this condition, he will be in a stronger position to make informed decisions about his future, his relationships, and less likely to be manipulated by people who can sense his condition and take advantage of it for their own selfish gains.

God bless you for taking the time to seek advice, and for looking out for Josh. People with this condition are also particularly susceptible to stress. The fact that he stole a key chain from where he worked and got caught suggests that he may be pretty deep in the spectrum or even have high functioning autism. [part of the spectrum] You might consider discussing your concerns with his parents.

:signofcross:

**Prayer to St. Dymphna **
O Virgin and heroic Martyr, we know very little about your origin, but many have learned to invoke you and several have claimed to have been helped. It is said that you remained faithful to your Divine Bridegroom to the end, resisting the lusts of your pagan father and preferring a martyr’s death. Please intercede for Joshua, a possible autistic man, that he may give glory to God. Amen.
 
Layp3rs0n said:
As I tried to get my brain to shut up so that I could pray this morning, my friend’s name popped into my head. Josh. I realized I’ve not been saying many prayers for him cuz I guess I’m a selfish jerk and I just plain have been forgetting. Haha. Anyway, Josh has made some rather foolish moves this past year, (Not judging, I’m no stranger to dumb decisions), but his dumb choices this year have landed him in more trouble than I think he realizes. My other friend and I believe he may have asperger’s syndrome. That’s not a joke, I mean literally we think he has it.
  1. Josh met a woman, Anna, from Indiana via internet. They spoke for about six months, I think.
  2. Josh flew from Maryland to Indiana to meet her.
  3. Josh had actually and secretly flown there to marry Anna.
    4.We later found out that Anna wanted to pay Josh to get her pregnant, (presumably without marriage.) He declined.
  4. Josh married and moved in with Anna and her mother from Indiana.
  5. Josh had to find a new job. He procured one at a video game store.
  6. He and his new wife got a new place in a cruddy apartment.
  7. Josh, who loves Pokemon, stole a Pokemon keychain from his store. He was immediately fired.
  8. Unable to afford the apartment, they moved back to Maryland with Josh’s parents. Josh found a job a shoe store.
  9. Josh finally and unwittingly got Anna pregnant.
  10. Suffering awful marital issues (Anna belittles and emasculates Josh on a regular basis) Anna moved back without Josh to Indiana to live with her mother.
    12.Josh quits his job and moves back to Indiana with her.
  11. Josh is now unemployed, living in a trailer with his estranged wife and mother-in-law. He timidly tries to ask her to stop drinking and smoking while pregnant, while she insults him for trying. She says she is excited about the baby and her mother smoked when she was pregnant with her as she turned out fine. She refuses to work or go to school.
The situation is so bad it would be fodder for a bad comedy movie. But this is all (unbelievably) real. Having typed all that out I’m ashamed I’ve not prayed more about this whole fiasco. My other friend and I don’t believe in divorce,( though my other friend’s wife just left with their kids and his cat died, and he is protestant so despite my urgings he will date after they are divorced, so pray for him too), but we both want to recommend it to him. I don’t see how this marriage is valid, it’s just so messed up. But Josh is protestant and wouldn’t seek an annulment after so, frankly I don’t know what to say to him.

Prayers and advice please,
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Praying for Josh, his wife & you.
 
Praying that the Lord may grant guidance and all necessary graces to your friend Josh.

Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen
 
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