Forgiving and moving on

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I’m new around here, but I’ve been reading posts without being a member. I’ve been to counseling, talked with a priest, and read self-help books. I’m currently in the process of finding another counselor. I’m here to simply gain extra insight. I would gently ask for no one to suggest going to a priest or counselor, as I have already done that and intend to continue doing so. I would also gently ask everyone to refrain from judgement.

I’m a young adult, married 3 years with a 1 year old daughter. My parents and I generally have a close relationship. I grew up in a stable home, no financial troubles. I had my schooling paid for, didn’t have to get a job before I graduated college. We went on vacations to many different countries and I saw a lot of the world. My parents generally supported me, and I knew they did/do love me and care very much about me.

Looking back, though, I realize my parents had very poor parenting skills. I had very few limits and boundaries as a child. For example, I would watch as much TV as I wanted, ate a fair amount of excess junk food, and was never really made to do things like clean my room or pick up after myself. I guess they were able to “get away with” doing that because I had a gentle temperament as a child. For instance, if they did decide to lay down the law on a given day and limit my TV watching or make me clean my room, I would do so without arguing or back talking. The problem was consistency. For example, my mother would come up with a big, written-out plan of which two shows I was allowed to watch and enforce it for a day or two, and then let it all go and I would go back to having no limits. They also enforced no sense of consequences. If I carelessly broke an expensive toy, they would say, “Oh, that’s okay” and buy me another one. My parents probably didn’t see a problem because I wasn’t a wild child who acted spoiled. I was well behaved at school, and others complimented them on what a good child I was. But their less-than-ideal parenting didn’t go without consequences. As an adult, I am very lazy, watch too much TV, have little self-control when it comes to food, and find it difficult to have any sense of responsibility. I get by, but I could do better. My husband takes care of most things such as paying the bills, cooking, cleaning, etc. (I lived at home until I got married and my parents took care of all of the above.) Sometimes I feel like he has another child to take care of… I now feel like I am parenting myself, giving myself limits and consequences that I didn’t have as a child. Habits, however, are hard to break.

Another issue is that while I had few limits placed as a child and few instances of “consequences to your actions,” my parents’ “discipline” came out on me in other ways that were not only counterproductive but detrimental. They would reprimand me for not having a smile on my face at a given time. They would yell at me because I spoke in a soft, difficult to hear voice and was shy around people I didn’t know well (as a five-year-old). They would tell me I was rude and lecture me for long periods because I didn’t always answer unfamiliar people when they talked to me (also as a five-year-old). They would say I was not grateful for my father going to work and breaking his back all day long, and if I were grateful I would have a smile on my face at all times. My mother told me that my father would not have to go to work if I weren’t taking swimming lessons, so I should make the most out of them and practice more. I grew up with a low sense of self-esteem and struggled with an overall sense of self. I felt like a bad child and a burden to my parents.

In addition, my parents had their fair share of marital problems, all of which I witnessed. Very loud angry yelling, slamming doors, my father driving off in a fit of rage, my mother crying hysterically, threats of divorce, and extreme general tension all took place right in front of me. I would become upset about all this, and they would reprimand me for being upset, saying it was all a perfectly normal way for married couples to behave and I should not expect life to be perfect.

As I got older, I gradually became alienated from everyone except my parents. My parents told me that they were the only people in the world I could trust and that no one else was trustworthy. Therefore, I had no friends and was always quite lonely. At one point in my teen years I became close to adults my parents’ age I met at church. My parents told me I had offended them by becoming close to these adults because I had more interest in them than in my parents. They said the Bible says honor your father and mother, and it doesn’t say anything about honoring older friends from church. They said, “We are the ones who have provided for you and sacrificed for you. What have they done that we didn’t do?” And so I felt guilty for betraying my parents by having friendships with older adults.

As an adult, I went through depression, went to counseling, and took medication. I talked with my parents about the role they had in me becoming depressed, and they said they understood, but, honestly, I don’t think it registers for them. They say I turned out so well and I truly think they think they were the greatest parents.

Now I am married, away from them, and am struggling to make peace with all this. I want to forgive them, but I just keep thinking about it. 😦 I want to let it go. I think I could if they would just realize what they’ve done. But they don’t. They continue to exhibit hurtful behaviors over the phone and when they visit. How do I let it go if they don’t realize what they’ve done and continue to do things?

I am also afraid for what kind of mother I will be to my daughter, since I didn’t have exactly have a very stupendous example to follow.
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Now I am married, away from them, and am struggling to make peace with all this. I want to forgive them, but I just keep thinking about it. 😦 I want to let it go. I think I could if they would just realize what they’ve done. But they don’t. They continue to exhibit hurtful behaviors over the phone and when they visit. How do I let it go if they don’t realize what they’ve done and continue to do things?

I am also afraid for what kind of mother I will be to my daughter, since I didn’t have exactly have a very stupendous example to follow.
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I’m glad you’re getting counseling to help you through this, because this is too heavy a load to carry yourself and too difficult a course to navigate by yourself. Even with help, you are going to make some good decisions and some bad ones. This is a trip, not a switch you’re going to figure out how to flip. You’ll do OK, though. You are wise enough to look for good guides; you will make it.

I read a very good book on this subject, How to Forgive: A Step-By-Step Guide, by John Monbourquette, a priest and psychiatrist. I don’t mean that every bit of it proved useful for me, but it did have some insights I’ve used a lot. If you could get it and ask your counselor about it, I’d consider it. (I think Amazon has it sometimes.)

One of his ideas is that forgiving does not mean excusing an offense or pretending it is not an offense. One of the steps toward forgiveness is to stop the offending behavior or to find a way to remove yourself from it. Perhaps one of the things you can rehearse with your counselor is how you are going to respond (rather than react) to your parents when they offend you. How are you going to teach them how you expect to be treated and what your boundaries and rules are?

The other thing I might suggest is that there are a lot of people in the world struggling with laziness, and they didn’t all have parents who didn’t hold their feet to the fire. Some of them had parents that struggled all through the person’s childhood to light a fire under their behind to take the initiative to do something, to no avail. IOW, you don’t know how you would have turned out if you had different parents. You aren’t a “difficult” person, which may also mean you aren’t “strong-willed”. I’m trying to avoid putting a label on you, but to point out that part of your problem may be due to your temperament, which in each of us makes some parts of love easy and parts hard. I mean that you can choose to see your current problems as your current problems, and not worry too much how you got to the position you’re in. The issue isn’t how you got here. The issue is how to give yourself better habits. (If you are into another book, I found “Switch: How to Change Things When Change Is Hard” by Chip Heath and Dan Heath to be enlightening. Their book is about what strategies work and what strategies fail when it comes to making changes, and why. Let us just say the task is about much more than just “will power” or “won’t power.”

There are no perfect parents, but those willing to make an effort and who are willing to believe they can be a good parent but not convinced that they can’t fail usually do fine. This is especially true of someone willing to seek out and accept guidance.

Generally speaking, I have found as I get older that my successes and failures as a parent have made it easier for me to take a more compassionate look at the job my parents did. Any landing you walk away from is a good one, the pilots like to say. Your parents got you to adulthood with a desire to improve yourself. Yes, they could have done things better, but you have something to work with in yourself. You are the pilot of this leg of your flight. With the help you are willing to accept, I think you’ll have a good trip, and a landing everyone can walk away from. As for the rest, wish for God to be merciful on you and on your parents. You don’t have to feel it in order to pray for it, and God is not limited in his mercy by how far you have progressed in yours. Some day, when you go for absolution and have a priest help you let go of your own sin that is accusing you, you will again see that is a very good thing. That is OK. Be as much like God as you can; mercy will have to cover the rest. None of us get to sainthood except by admitting that we can’t make the whole journey without being carried.
 


I am also afraid for what kind of mother I will be to my daughter, since I didn’t have exactly have a very stupendous example to follow.
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Being without boundaries, that we are cognizant, and aware of, can make us feel really unsure and sometimes, unstable. If you think of your skeleton, that structure keeps your body in form and function, allowing you to move and walk. Boundaries of mind, and emotion, help us to navigate our relationships and our lives.

It will take effort, but because you are a new mom, you have an awesome advantage right now. Your child will teach you, and you will learn from her. You will grow, and heal, with her.

I would suggest, maybe sometimes, you can practice something: treat your parents the way you would like your daughter, to treat you. Even if you just try it out, maybe with a sense of curious adventure. Allow yourself to experience some Joy. In being an adult, and a mom, and a human being (because we all get hurt, and we all have to heal, and we all have to grow).
 
hi-As the post stated:"I am also afraid for what kind of mother I will be to my daughter, since I didn’t have exactly have a very stupendous example to follow. "
well take what you can and disregard the rest, as my suggestion is fallible…
that God loves through other people…parent to child is a flow…

the practice of that makes a person very confident…(which is the opposite of self doubt);
what you describe is called ‘transference’ -taking experience from childhood, unresolved, as these are seen in adult behaviors, as though they jump forward…or , as you describe, teh past can influence the present, especially observed in who you and how you love…

well consider, to take up in prayer-inquires what robs you of God’s love/what robs you of free will? Some logical answers could be he is not discovered a thief in either case…the best discovery is the Holy Spirit as counselor; if only there was some method of prayer that fits the circumstances just right; additionally, if person to person counseling is found not to be effective/ so i don’t want to over step my bounds-but, to relive an incident in memory-to recall a hurtful event from start to finish in the imagination-could be helpful when your soul takes along the holy spirit, on the journey…then discover-blame verses forgiveness, self confidence verses deeper felt redemption; the danger is opening up a can of worms-intense reaction, but we have souls; thanks patrick
 
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