Forgiving Those Who Dont Ask For Forgiveness

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The Scripture supports this. Although I would change one tiny part. I think there are three distinct postures one can take with regard to a horizontal sin (that which is between two humans).
  1. Forgive
  2. Not forgive (the Bible sometimes calls this “holding a grudge”)
  3. Let it go.
If you are waiting for the person who wronged you to come forward first to acknowledge their wrong-doing and to ask for forgiveness, wouldn’t this place you in #2? The person may not come forward for some time, or they may never come forward. What to make of such a situation? Hold it against them until they say they’re sorry?
Also, what is the point of repenting (which is a 4 step process–1. acknowledge what you did. 2. Acknowledge what it caused/how it hurt the person. 3. Offer to make it right and 4. resolve to never do it again) if you are going to offer forgiveness to just anyone? What special do we have to offer the person who is truly contrite and broken hearted?
The person who is truly contrite and broken hearted does not repent because something is being offered to them (other than forgiveness), they are repenting because they are truly contrite.

Also, why would it matter if a person who is truly contrite received the same forgiveness and was shown the same mercy as someone who didn’t ask? Have you not heard the parable of the workers in the vineyard? God can reward anyone He wants under any stipulation that He wants. He pays the workers who were out in the field for 10 hours the same as He pays the workers who showed up at the end of the day and only worked 2 hours.

Ironically enough, Jesus Himself, cried out on the cross for His Father to “forgive them, for they know not what they do.” He didn’t say forgive them, only until they come forward first. It sounds like He just forgave them, whether they wanted forgiveness, asked for it, or not.
 
If you are waiting for the person who wronged you to come forward first to acknowledge their wrong-doing and to ask for forgiveness, wouldn’t this place you in #2? The person may not come forward for some time, or they may never come forward. What to make of such a situation? Hold it against them until they say they’re sorry?

The person who is truly contrite and broken hearted does not repent because something is being offered to them (other than forgiveness), they are repenting because they are truly contrite.

Also, why would it matter if a person who is truly contrite received the same forgiveness and was shown the same mercy as someone who didn’t ask? Have you not heard the parable of the workers in the vineyard? God can reward anyone He wants under any stipulation that He wants. He pays the workers who were out in the field for 10 hours the same as He pays the workers who showed up at the end of the day and only worked 2 hours.

Ironically enough, Jesus Himself, cried out on the cross for His Father to “forgive them, for they know not what they do.” He didn’t say forgive them, only until they come forward first. It sounds like He just forgave them, whether they wanted forgiveness, asked for it, or not.
Yes, I understand that this is the standard response given by most Christians to the question of whom to forgive.

However, responding to points I did not make is called nonsequiter.

" Hold it against them until they say they’re sorry?"

No. Please re-read that I have made a clear distinction between this (holding a grudge–a sin) and letting it go. Letting it go is recorded in the Bible as love “covering a multitude of sins.”

Here are two verses, both recording Jesus words:

Luke m17:3 So watch yourselves. If your brother or sister sins against you, rebuke them; and if they repent, forgive them.

Mark 11:25-26 And whenever you stand praying, forgive if you have anything against anyone; so that your Father also who is in heaven may forgive you your transgressions. But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father who is in heaven forgive your transgressions.

Which of Christs words do you reject?

In order to solve this apparent contradiction, we MUST use the additive principle of hermeneutics. It works like this:

If the scripture says A+B=C in one verse and in another it says B=C, then the second verse implies A+

Otherwise you have to do violence to the scripture by throwing one of them out. I am not inclined to do this.

Also, the workers in the Vinyard were not guilty of anything. They simply were hired by the master at different parts of the day. Is it your contention that the moral of the story is “don’t repent. You will be forgiven anyway?” Yikes. The actual moral of the story is “your hard work will be rewarded and besides you don’t when you are going to do die so repent, get to work and stop worrying about what others are doing.”

Likewise, the people at Jesus feet who crucified Him? Christ asked the Father to forgive them appealing to the fact that they did not know what they were doing was a sin. We have no idea how the Father responded. Again–does this verse tell us “everyone gets in in the end. Don’t bother repenting!”

Of course not. Otherwise why teach repentance? If you have two children, try this with them. (Give them both the same forgiveness even if only one of them is truly contrite) One of them will hate you.
 
If you are waiting for the person who wronged you to come forward first to acknowledge their wrong-doing and to ask for forgiveness, wouldn’t this place you in #2? The person may not come forward for some time, or they may never come forward.** What to make of such a situation? Hold it against them until they say they’re sorry? **

Also, why would it matter if a person who is truly contrite received the same forgiveness and was shown the same mercy as someone who didn’t ask?
Here’s something to consider in Our Lord’s words to St. Faustina. This will help us understand what Jesus meant on the cross when He forgave those who crucified Him.
1628 St. Faustina wrote, “During Holy Mass, I saw Jesus stretched out on the Cross and He said to me, My Pupil, have great love for those who cause you suffering. do good to those who hate you. I answered, “O my Master, You know very well that I feel no love for them and that troubles me.” Jesus answered. It is not always within your power to control your feelings. You will recognize that you have love [and forgiveness] if, after having experienced annoyance and contradiction, you do not lose your peace, but pray for those who have made you suffer and wish them well.”
What forgiveness accomplishes for us personally is the interior release of all resentment, bitterness, anger, depression, etc., occasioned by another’s sin against us. We willingly, for Christ, let go of it and entrust the person to the mercy of God, praying for their repentance and amendment, and restoring our souls to peace. It sets us free to release the hold on others that our thoughts transmit back to them with these harmful emotions. Yes, our poisonous thoughts do travel, and may be the instrument that prevents their repentance…

Forgiveness does not mean that we must prove to ourselves that we HAVE forgiven them, by entering into a restored relationship with them, especially if it is going to be abusive or harmful in any way. It would be called “condonation,” which in any court of law debars the person who condones *the *act from obtaining a favorable judgment. This has been especially true in divorce issues, that a spouse who sleeps with an erring husband or wife after filing for divorce, may not be granted a divorce afterwards.
 
The thing is, God’s mercy should surpass a feeble sinner’s. If a weak, evil man is able to take pity on someone and “let them off the hook”, why not our all-loving God?
I do not think that God refuses forgiveness to people who act in ignorance or who are so hemmed in by the circumstances of life that they do not see their way to acting otherwise. Even the Church’s criteria for what constitutes a mortal sin leaves out those people.

You need not worry that God is unfair to anyone, or less merciful than we would be. He created every soul to be with Him forever and loves each one of us more ardently than any human has ever loved another.

Usagi
 
Interesting…

As I prayed the Divine Office this morning, these words from Psalm 99 struck me as being good for this discussion:

O Lord our God, you answered them.
For them you were a God who forgives;
yet you punished their offenses.

In law, this is also true when someone is put on probation after the court extends clemency. They usually have some type of community service or restitution assigned to them.
 
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