Fr. Altier / triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

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While looking for news about the censorship of Fr. Robert Altier by Archbishop Flynn, I came across this homily from Jan 1, 2004.
http://www.michaeljournal.org/altier.htm

In this article he states that the immaculate heart will triumph before Dr. Lucia’s death, except that Sr. Lucia died last year in 2005.

And in 2004, Father stated that we will see the era of peace begin. I haven’t seen much peace, especially with what’s going on in Iraq and the new president of Iran.

Also, he states that the apparition at Akita says that JPII is the final pope of the age (not sure what that means). We now have Pope Benedict.

Were all of these predictions false because none of them seemed to have come true?

I am now really confused.
 
Fr Altier said at the beginning of his homily: “First of all, before I say anything else, let me just simply remind you that when it comes to dates and times, no one knows. These things can be mitigated, and so it could be that the timing is off; we just simply do not know.”
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Dan-Man916:
While looking for news about the censorship of Fr. Robert Altier by Archbishop Flynn, I came across this homily from Jan 1, 2004.

In this article he states that the immaculate heart will triumph before Dr. Lucia’s death, except that Sr. Lucia died last year in 2005.
He said: "Our Lady (not in 1917, but much later) appeared to Sister Lucia, the only seer from Fatima who is still alive, and promised her that she would be alive to see the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. Sister Lucia is now 95 years old, and so the timing on that tells us that something has to happen fairly soon. "

That’s a matter of historical record that he was repeating. It does not mean that the Triumph has reached completion, but if Sr Lucia is correct, Our Lady said she would be alive to see the Triumph and that the Holy Father would also see it.

We have no idea how the Triumph is to happen (eg. over a period of time or sudden and complete), but if anyone is mistaken here it would have to be either Sr Lucia or Our Lady rather than Fr Altier. :eek:
And in 2004, Father stated that we will see the era of peace begin. I haven’t seen much peace, especially with what’s going on in Iraq and the new president of Iran.
Maybe we will realise in hindsight, as is often the case, that some event in 2004 marked the birth of an Era of Peace.
Also, he states that the apparition at Akita says that JPII is the final pope of the age (not sure what that means). We now have Pope Benedict.
Fr Altier is commenting on the last fully approved Apparition.
Were all of these predictions false because none of them seemed to have come true?
These “predictions” originated from Church-approved apparitions, not Fr Altier. But I strongly suspect that Archbishop Flynn does not preach homilies on these “messages” from Heaven and call people to repentence.
I am now really confused.
Let me finish with Father’s own words towards the end of that homily
"So my recommendation, as we begin this new year, is to either renew or make, if you have not done so, the consecration of your entire being and your entire life to Jesus Christ through the Blessed Virgin Mary as given to us by Saint Louis de Montfort, to take up the prayer life and to live it fervently so that you will be accustomed to hearing the voice of Christ and being obedient to whatever He asks you to do. That is what Our Lady has modeled for us already, and if we are going to be Her true children, we need to be just like Her. We need to be virtuous, we need to be holy, we need to be obedient. That is what God is asking of His faithful people. Now the question for us is if we are willing to do it. Only you can make that answer. The choice is entirely yours. You are being invited by Our Lord and by Our Lady into what I believe will be the greatest events of human history, and you have to choose whether to accept or to reject their invitation. "
He is saying we have to make the choice of what we are going to do, to choose Jesus Christ and to choose to go to Calvary with Him to be crucified with Him, or to run away, to apostasize.
 
But can’t this kind of thing be dangerous because it is so sensational that people will be looking for “signs and wonders”.

The Church should really say more about these things. I know they move slowly, but with so much marian activity going on in the world, the Church should be doing more to address these issues regarding Fatima and Akita, shouldn’t they?
 
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But can’t this kind of thing be dangerous because it is so sensational that people will be looking for “signs and wonders”.

The Church should really say more about these things. I know they move slowly, but with so much marian activity going on in the world, the Church should be doing more to address these issues regarding Fatima and Akita, shouldn’t they?
I’m not sure what you mean here.

The Church has approved the apparitions of Fatima & Akita and declared them “worthy of belief” by the Church.

It is not binding for Catholics to accept them, but we should be guided by the Church.

Oct 13, 1973, at Akita, OL told Sr Agnes:
*As I told you, if men do not repent and better themselves, the Father will inflict a terrible punishment on all humanity. It will be a punishment greater than the deluge, such as one will never seen before. Fire will fall from the sky and will wipe out a great part of humanity, the good as well as the bad, sparing neither priests nor faithful. The survivors will find themselves so desolate that they will envy the dead. The only arms which will remain for you will be the Rosary and the Sign left by My Son. Each day recite the prayers of the Rosary. With the Rosary, pray for the Pope, the bishops and priests."
"The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres…churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.
“The demon will be especially implacable against souls consecrated to God. The thought of the loss of so many souls is the cause of my sadness. If sins increase in number and gravity, there will be no longer pardon for them”*
In June 1988, Cardinal Ratzinger, who was then the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, gave a definitive judgement on the Akita events and messages as reliable and worthy of belief.

The problem we have today is a denial of sin and eternal damnation. Very few priests exhort us to renounce sin and turn back to God. Rather, too many try to twist and contort clear teaching in the attempt to make allowances for people to feel they are doing okay without having to change.

Pope John Paul II said in a speech to Spanish youth in 1982:
"Learn to speak, think and act in accordance with the evangelical simplicity and clarity “Yes, yes; no, no! Learn to call white, white!, and black, black!; To call evil, evil; and good, good; and not to call it liberation or progress, even if fashion or propaganda are opposed to this teaching.”
Saint Faustina told us very clearly that, if we don’t throw ourselves on God’s Mercy, we will have to face His Justice.

Yet how many priests explain the teaching of Divine Mercy to their flock. How many priests have the courage to preach against abortion or contraception these days? When was the last time you heard a priest tell people that missing Mass on Sunday is a mortal sin and they need to go to Reconciliation before they can receive Communion again?

Priests who preach about the warnings we have received from Heaven are not encouraging people to look for signs and wonders, they are warning us that the time is running out for us. We cannot afford to be complacent any longer.
 
Eileen,

thanks for your reply.
What I meant was, is that since these apparitions are found worthy of belief, then does that not mean that the Church expects that these chastisements are to be forthcoming?

And if so, then shouldn’t the Church be more publically speaking on God’s coming judgement. When I say Church, I mean the Magesterium.

Shouldn’t the Church make this more of a focal point of evangelizing it’s own people to repent and turn back to Christ in light of what we are hearing from these heavenly messages?
Yes, we have Divine mercy Sunday. That is a wonderful thing, and the parishes need to do more because not many of them have a devotion to divine emrcy and are preaching the chaplet.
 
The chastisements can be mitigated or totally avoided by repentence, prayer and atonement.

If a prophecy does not come to pass, some people might think it wasn’t a true prophecy, but we are taught by the story of Jonah in the OT where God was going to destroy Ninevah, that when the city repented they were spared.

IMO, Divine Mercy Sunday - as opposed to the Chaplet - is not preached (total remission of sin and all punishment due to sin when the conditions are met) is not preached by many priests because they don’t like to mention Hell and eternal damnation. It’s not PC.
 
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