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Hey guys, hope you are all having a great day.
In my philosophy class, I wrote a paper that dealt with whether we live in a clock universe or a cloudy universe. Afterwards, we had a discussion on free will. It was pretty much me against the class, and I tried to defend the Catholic stance on free will while I saw some of my classmates take on a Calvinistic point of view. It was overall a good discussion. The question I asked myself after class deals with Jeremiah. The verses I’m concerned with are as followed:
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Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I dedicated you, a prophet to the nations I appointed you.
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“Ah, Lord GOD!” I said, “I know not how to speak; I am too young.”
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But the LORD answered me, Say not, “I am too young.” To whomever I send you, you shall go; whatever I command you, you shall speak.
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Have no fear before them, because I am with you to deliver you, says the LORD.
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Then the LORD extended his hand and touched my mouth, saying, See, I place my words in your mouth!
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This day I set you over nations and over kingdoms, To root up and to tear down, to destroy and to demolish, to build and to plant.
A similar question just came into my head. Why would God create a soul if He knew that soul will ultimately reject Him?
In my philosophy class, I wrote a paper that dealt with whether we live in a clock universe or a cloudy universe. Afterwards, we had a discussion on free will. It was pretty much me against the class, and I tried to defend the Catholic stance on free will while I saw some of my classmates take on a Calvinistic point of view. It was overall a good discussion. The question I asked myself after class deals with Jeremiah. The verses I’m concerned with are as followed:
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The word of the LORD came to me thus:Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I dedicated you, a prophet to the nations I appointed you.
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“Ah, Lord GOD!” I said, “I know not how to speak; I am too young.”
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But the LORD answered me, Say not, “I am too young.” To whomever I send you, you shall go; whatever I command you, you shall speak.
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Have no fear before them, because I am with you to deliver you, says the LORD.
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Then the LORD extended his hand and touched my mouth, saying, See, I place my words in your mouth!
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This day I set you over nations and over kingdoms, To root up and to tear down, to destroy and to demolish, to build and to plant.
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Did Jeremiah have free will?
God came to him and said here I have this great plan laid out for you, but Jeremiah could have easily said no or chose not to, but since God already knew him before he was born, God knew he would accept it. If he had rejected God then God would not know him and would not have come to him because He would not know him to come to in the first place. 
Knowing Jeremiah ahead of time is like if you could travel through time like before your wife or spouse is born you will still know/remember your spouse before they are even born and you could go to him/her any time after they are born because you already know them in the future timeline. But if you never met your spouse then you won’t know them to go to in the first place. You can only go visit your spouse in his/her childhood if you know them, if you never met them then you won’t know them to visit in their childhood in the first place. God lives outside time, so for Him everyone He knows, He knows them before they are born. 
Souls that reject God, He doesn’t know so He never knows them which is what He will tell some on judgement day, that He never knew them because for God to know someone is to always know them since He lives outside time. God does not create souls that will reject Him because souls are created by a system that He put in motion which is reproduction. Just like how God did not create cars or computers but He created the physicas and laws of science that would allow MAN to create cars and computers. God created mankind with freewill and with the ability to reproduce the souls are created during reproduction. I don’t believe God creates each indivitual soul in heaven and sends them to earth, the spark that creates souls are within the man & woman during reproduction. The souls that reject Him He never knew. Noone God knows goes to hell.