Freemasons at Mass?

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The priest I mentioned in my original post is a Lutheran minister convert. However, the Lutherans, Baptist and other Christian churches forbid Masonry. Not sure where he gets his information. I’m going to ask however.
 
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PLEASE READ ALL THREE SITES FOR THE ENTIRE TRUTH:grinning:

[1] http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/iss...the-real-reason-catholics-cant-be-freemasons/

[2] Code of Canon Law regarding Freemasonry

[3] How the Prohibition Against Freemasonry Disappeared from Canon Law
** OnePeterFive November 21, 2017 7**
By Fr. Paolo M. Siano

From October 20 – 29, 1981, the Plenary Congregation of the Pontifical Commission for the Revision of the Code of Canon Law met in the Vatican to discuss and vote on the renewal of canon 2335 of the 1917 Code of Canon Law which conferred excommunication on Catholics enrolled in Freemasonry or other sects which conspired against the Church and against the State. This canon was ultimately not renewed in the new 1983 Code of Canon Law.

It is interesting to note the two positions that existed within the Plenary Congregation: a minority position which favored renewing Canon 2335 (excommunicating Catholics enrolled as Freemasons), and a majority position which successfully proposed that this canon would not be renewed and thus there would be no excommunication of “Catholic Freemasons.”

I will now consider several points of the record of the Plenary Congregation translated from the Latin by Fr. Zbigniew Suchecki, OFM Conv., and published in the review “Religioni e Sette nel mondo (Religions and sects in the world)” of GRIS (Socio-Religious Research Group) of Bologna, in issue number 1 of 2008 dedicated to the theme “The Catholic Church and Freemasonry.”

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How the Prohibition Against Freemasonry Disappeared from Canon Law - OnePeterFive
 
I was going to say, Cajun must have something to say about this.
 
Be nice if the Pope would clarify. We certainly have freemasons in our parish receiving Sacraments.
 
Xanthippe_Voorhees said:
The only thing that bothors me is how you think patroling the parking lot is your responsibilty.
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It appears from what the OP has stated that he/she is only interested in doing his/her reasonable diligence in a spiritual work of mercy. And according to God’s Word, that’s EVERYONE’s responsibility, within reason.
If there are indeed Catholic faithful at that parish who also are members of the Freemasons, then they may be doing harm to their relationship with God, albeit in potential ignorance. And the Priest is obviously ignorant of the Church’s current teaching on the matter, and likely of the fact that Freemasonry is incompatible with Christianity.
PJM said:
Therefore, the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church, and therefore, membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.
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Saint Paul wrote strong words about those of us who receive the Body and Blood of Christ unworthily, such that we eat and drink condemnation upon ourselves. So, again, @Xanthippe_Voorhees, it is certainly reasonable to assume that the OP is focused on fraternal correction/instruction/mercy, having seen public signs of Masonic membership in an unexpected place, and not simply scoping cars for memorabilia.
 
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Thanks for understanding. Although I have more than 10 years of formal Catholic education, I came here specifically to learn more. 2000 years of church history takes a while to absorb. It definitely interferes with my parking lot bumper sticker snooping time.
 
chieft said:
Be nice if the Pope would clarify. We certainly have freemasons in our parish receiving Sacraments.
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Pope Benedict XVI, while Prefect of the CDF DID CLARIFY!

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

DECLARATION ON MASONIC ASSOCIATIONS

It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church’s decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous Code.

This Sacred Congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance in due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.

Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enrol in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.

It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 1981 pp. 240-241; English language edition of L’Osservatore Romano, 9 March 1981).

In an audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this Declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this Sacred Congregation.

Rome, from the Office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 26 November 1983.

Joseph Card. RATZINGER
Prefect
  • Fr. Jerome Hamer, O.P.
    Titular Archbishop of Lorium
    Secretary
 
Huh.

I would see this as an opportunity to recruit for K of C.

Perhaps it’s the fraternal connection these folks like and are unaware that Freemasonry is not inline with the church.
 
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You are absolutely right. I should have been more specific. I was referring to Pope Francis. My current Pastor, Although lawyerly smart, somehow thinks its NOW ok to be a mason. I’m NOT kidding.
 
chieft said:
You are absolutely right. I should have been more specific. I was referring to Pope Francis. My current Pastor, Although lawyerly smart, somehow thinks its NOW ok to be a mason. I’m NOT kidding.
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This is the link to the CDF document. You should print it and show it to your pastor.
Such declarations do not require a once a year confirmation of validity. Once published it remains valid and in force unless officially rescinded. In the case of Freemasons that will certainly never happen.
If your pastor still rejects it after you show him then take it up the line.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...aith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html
 
LRR said:
Seems like there will always be confusion on this because fraternal correction is not given, and often the actions of prelates are confusing. Someone sent me this early this morning. Don’t know if it’s to be believed or not; the audio is difficult to understand but the gist is in the headline.
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There is NO CONFUSION.
I already quoted the official Church position on this. Catholics are FORBIDDEN to be Freemasons.
 
chieft said:
Noticed the other day several Freemason stickers on vehicles in the church parking lot.
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Didn’t they build the pyramids? 🤔 Perhaps they’re at the Church to restore the masonry? Better hope that they’re Master Masons 🙃
 
Didn’t they build the pyramids? 🤔 Perhaps they’re at the Church to restore the masonry? Better hope that they’re Master Masons 🙃

LOL. Quite maybe they are friends of yours ? Your wit and humor is Amason !..er a I mean amazing
 
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Well, you are right; there should be no confusion but people are confused because they haven’t read what Benedict said. Maybe a Facebook page would be a help (just kidding).
 
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