Frist vetoed rollcall vote on lynching apology

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WASHINGTON — Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) refused repeated requests for a roll call vote that would have put senators on the record on a resolution apologizing for past failures to pass anti-lynching laws, officials involved in the negotiations said Tuesday.

And there was disagreement Tuesday over whether Saxby Chambliss, one of Georgia’s two Republican senators, had supported the measure when it was approved Monday night.

Bob Stevenson, Frist’s chief spokesman, said Tuesday evening the procedure the majority leader established was “requested by the sponsors.”

The chief sponsors of the resolution, Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) and George Allen (R-Va.), disputed that assertion.

Landrieu said Monday before the resolution was adopted she would have preferred a roll call vote but had to accept the conditions set by Senate leaders.

When Stevenson was informed of Landrieu’s statement, he amended his comments to say “at least one of the sponsors” had requested adoption on a voice vote and in combination with a resolution related to Black History Month.

Allen press secretary David Snepp took issue with Stevenson. “I don’t know why Bob Stevenson would characterize it that way,” he said.

There are between 10 and 15 senators who refused to sign on to the apology for the Senate’s failure to act. That’s why there was no rollcall vote; the cowards didn’t want to be on the record and were able to wink at their racist constituents.
 
Spokesman for democrat senator byrd from west virginia couldn’t say whether byrd participated in any lynchings when he was member of the KKK.
 
I saw a man this morning on CSPAN talking about the way the Senate failed to act in 1934? to end lynchings in America. He gave an example of a black man pulled from a jail cell in Waco, Texas and the entire town, including the law enforcement officials, were there. There were 5000 lynchings in this country.

The man said that for the 5 months that lynching was being debated by the Senate, there was not a single one. However, when they failed to act, the lynchings started again.

The senators who refused to sign on to the apology are moral cowards and catering to racist, filth in this country.
 
You can put your name on this type of resolution after the fact and hope that people don’t notice. Here are the ones who have refused to support an apology…

Craig Thomas (R-WY)
Trent Lott (R-MS)
Lamar Alexander (R-TN)
John Sununu (R-NH)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Michael Enzi (R-WY)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
 
While you may think Republicans are racists,isn’t is ironic that a certain party caters to the organazation that is number one killer of African Americans-abortions:nope: Who founder was Margeret Sanger eugenics queen:nope: Hmmmm:hmmm:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
While you may think Republicans are racists,…
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I never said that; I said “senators” You said Republicans. Please don’t put words into my mouth.
 
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Thekla:
I never said that; I said “senators” You said Republicans. Please don’t put words into my mouth.
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Fair enough:) I apologize,I wrote to much into it:)
 
Interesting that filibusters were used mostly by southern democrats in Congress to prevent any legislative action against lynchings and filibusters are now being used by liberal democrats in Congress to prevent any judges that will protect the rights of the unborn. Today, apologists for the democrats in the MSM invoke the sanctity of the filibuster to justify preventing any practicing Catholic from becoming a federal judge.
 
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swampfox:
Interesting that filibusters were used mostly by southern democrats in Congress to prevent any legislative action against lynchings and filibusters are now being used by liberal democrats in Congress to prevent any judges that will protect the rights of the unborn. Today, apologists for the democrats in the MSM invoke the sanctity of the filibuster to justify preventing any practicing Catholic from becoming a federal judge.
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Where did those southern democrats filibustering civil rights legislation go after it finally went through? Hmmm?
 
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Thekla:
Where did those southern democrats filibustering civil rights legislation go after it finally went through? Hmmm?
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ok, I’ll play. Robert Byrd, the only current senator who was a member of the KKK and whose spokesman yesterday couldn’t say whether the senator participated in lynchings while he was a member of that organization, has stayed and prospered in the democrat party. Do you know of any Republican senators who are in the same category? Byrd’s the Senate democrats’ elder “statesman.” and so-called expert on parliamentary maneuvering and bringing home pork. Where do the current democrats go to get marching orders on filibustering practicing Catholic judges and judges who recognize the rights of the unborn or judges who read the Equal Protection clause to prohibit reverse discrimination? And where do the current democrats go to get marching orders on supporting judges who twist the law to recognize same sex marriage?
 
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swampfox:
ok, I’ll play.
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Is the game, “Don’t answer the question?” because then you win. If not, I’ll give you a hint. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, former Democrats, became_____________ because of the platform at the 1948 DNC calling for racially integrating the military.
 
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Thekla:
Is the game, “Don’t answer the question?” because then you win. If not, I’ll give you a hint. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, former Democrats, became_____________ because of the platform at the 1948 DNC calling for racially integrating the military.
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And were they in the KKK? Did they also vote to promote abortion, especially of black babies, as recommended by Margaret Sanger the founder of Planned Parenthood and patron saint to today’s democrat party? Let’s see what would a mature human being focus on and propose to do–to score debating points over bygone days or save the lives of the weakest among us whose very lives are threatened today?
 
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Thekla:
Is the game, “Don’t answer the question?” because then you win. If not, I’ll give you a hint. Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond, former Democrats, became_____________ because of the platform at the 1948 DNC calling for racially integrating the military.
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Thurmond left the Democratic Party and ran for president on the Dixiecrat ticket. It was later that he joined the Republican Party. He also renounced his earlier racist attitude, but I guess that doesn’t enter the picture.
 
Oh well, it’s only lynching, right? A shameful practice of white christians terrorizing blacks on Sunday afternoons. Speaking of Robert Byrd…you must think I’m a fan of ANY politician. Funny.

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A Senator’s Shame
Byrd, in His New Book, Again Confronts Early Ties to KKK

By Eric Pianin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 19, 2005; Page A01

In the early 1940s, a politically ambitious butcher from West Virginia named Bob Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to form a chapter of the Ku Klux Klan. After Byrd had collected the $10 joining fee and $3 charge for a robe and hood from every applicant, the “Grand Dragon” for the mid-Atlantic states came down to tiny Crab Orchard, W.Va., to officially organize the chapter.

As Byrd recalls now, the Klan official, Joel L. Baskin of Arlington, Va., was so impressed with the young Byrd’s organizational skills that he urged him to go into politics. “The country needs young men like you in the leadership of the nation,” Baskin said.

The young Klan leader went on to become one of the most powerful and enduring figures in modern Senate history. Throughout a half-century on Capitol Hill, Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.) has twice held the premier leadership post in the Senate, helped win ratification of the Panama Canal treaty, squeezed billions from federal coffers to aid his home state, and won praise from liberals for his opposition to the war in Iraq and his defense of minority party rights in the Senate.

Despite his many achievements, however, the venerated Byrd has never been able to fully erase the stain of his association with one of the most reviled hate groups in the nation’s history.
 
Sounds to me like the Dems are drumming up trouble to try to embarass Republicans and take focus away from their performance of doing absolutely nothing but blocking nominees and insulting our military.
Not sure why Frist et al didn’t sign the item but I’m willing to see what they’re explanation is before declaring them racists. Not very Christian. But oh wait, I guess we’re all lynching racists. :tsktsk:
 
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Jennifer123:
Sounds to me like the Dems are drumming up trouble to try to embarass Republicans and take focus away from their performance of doing absolutely nothing but blocking nominees and insulting our military.
Not sure why Frist et al didn’t sign the item but I’m willing to see what they’re explanation is before declaring them racists. Not very Christian. But oh wait, I guess we’re all lynching racists. :tsktsk:
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Frist signed it. I listed the 7 who refused. In 1934 the Senate debated this item for 5 months; during that time there was not one documented lynching. When the Senate did not act, the lynchings started up again. 93 senators managed to find a way to support an apology and 7 did not. Why apologize or make excuses for politicians? Why use the term “we” when I’m talking about them and racist constituents to whom they are catering?
 
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Thekla:
Why use the term “we” when I’m talking about them and racist constituents to whom they are catering?
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And, of course, you have actual evidence that these few senators refused to participate in the apology because they’re catering to their “racist constituents”? Right?

Or is this just more exercise for your mind muscle bound with suspicion from jumping to too many conclusions?

– Mark L. Chance.
 
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Thekla:
Oh well, it’s only lynching, right? A shameful practice of white christians terrorizing blacks on Sunday afternoons.
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I included the “we” because I, as many others I’m sure on this board, consider myself a white Christian.
 
Frankly, if specific individual wasn’t a senator at the time of the lynchings, then I see no reason why they should be expected to apologize for something they didn’t do.

The entire situation is stupid. Those that stood by and did nothing can apologize, the rest don’t have a reason to.
 
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