godsent:
Protestants use the fact that jesus said"fruit of the vine"to deny the true existence of christ’s presence in the wine he served at the last supper!
I was reading my bible yesterday and in John(15,1) jesus says"i am the true VINE,and my father is the vindresser"
I instantly thought that when jesus was announcing the blood of christ at the last supper,and used the term"fruit of the vine",maybe that was referring to his actual blood as he is the TRUE vine!
Any thoughts?
See
Isaiah 5 - and Psalm 80
Give ear, O Shepherd of Israel, thou who leadest Joseph like a flock! Thou who art enthroned upon the cherubim, shine forth
Psa 80:2 before Ephraim and Benjamin and Manasseh! Stir up thy might, and come to save us!
Psa 80:3 Restore us, O God; let thy face shine, that we may be saved!
Psa 80:4 O LORD God of hosts, how long wilt thou be angry with thy people’s prayers?
Psa 80:5 Thou hast fed them with the bread of tears, and given them tears to drink in full measure.
Psa 80:6 Thou dost make us the scorn of our neighbors; and our enemies laugh among themselves.
Psa 80:7 Restore us, O God of hosts; let thy face shine, that we may be saved!
Psa 80:8 Thou didst bring a vine out of Egypt; thou didst drive out the nations and plant it.
Psa 80:9 Thou didst clear the ground for it; it took deep root and filled the land.
Psa 80:10 The mountains were covered with its shade, the mighty cedars with its branches;
Psa 80:11 it sent out its branches to the sea, and its shoots to the River.
Psa 80:12 Why then hast thou broken down its walls, so that all who pass along the way pluck its fruit?
Psa 80:13 The boar from the forest ravages it, and all that move in the field feed on it.
Psa 80:14 Turn again, O God of hosts! Look down from heaven, and see; have regard for this vine,
Psa 80:15 the stock which thy right hand planted.
Psa 80:16 They have burned it with fire, they have cut it down; may they perish at the rebuke of thy countenance!
Psa 80:17 But let thy hand be upon the man of thy right hand, the son of man whom thou hast made strong for thyself!
Psa 80:18 Then we will never turn back from thee; give us life, and we will call on thy name!
Psa 80:19 Restore us, O LORD God of hosts! let thy face shine, that we may be saved!
The vine is Israel - and Matthew shows that Jesus is Israel in person ##
