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henrikhank
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How does FSSP view the holy Ecône consecrations?
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JGMendes4049
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The same way as the Church: valid, but illicit.
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noellesdad
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Hypocritically seeing as they would not be priests if not for the SSPX.
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Windmill
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And the SSPX has not acted hypocritically towards Rome, seeing as how they wouldn’t be a Society if it wasn’t for the Holy See granting it a canonical establishment? Please.
I think the FSSP and the FSSPX are very much on the same side of most issues. Even on the issue of concrete submission to the Roman Pontiff, I think the FSSPX is starting to open up to the idea of a (protected) submission.
I think the FSSP and the FSSPX are very much on the same side of most issues. Even on the issue of concrete submission to the Roman Pontiff, I think the FSSPX is starting to open up to the idea of a (protected) submission.
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henrikhank
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That’s what you think. You think this is what the Chuch beleives but maybe you are wrong.
I want to know what FSSP have to say about it.
Personaly I think the consecrations was valid and licit but we are talking about FSSP and their view(s) of this important subject.
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Bl_Pope_Pius_IX
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How do you figure this?
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corsair
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Perhaps you should write to Fr. John Berg and ask him. (you can write can’t you?)
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TrueLight
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Think about it. In 1988, some SSPX priests and seminarians left the Society when Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated the bishops in spite of Pope John Paul’s directive not to. These priests eventually became the FSSP.
Why do you think they would view the consecrations as licit?
If you are a brother who follows all the rules and you have a brother who follows some of the rules, are you going to cheer him on?
So, if the Church views them as illicit, so do the FSSP, whether they sympathize or not.
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Chatter163
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Correct. The FSSP was created when priests, deacons and seminarians of the SSPX would NOT support the consecrations. Otherwise, they would have remained with the SSPX, which continues to to suspended.
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Denise1957
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If you are referring here to the episcopal consecrations of June 30, 1988, then there is a document on the FSSP website that adresses this subject. It’s called, “Declaration of intentions by the founders, 2 July, 1988.”
This declaration was written and signed four days after the illicit consecrations took place (before the FSSP was established) by priest members of the SSPX who were looking to put themselves under the authority of the Church and the Holy Father, and so of course Pope John Paul ll eventually established the FSSP for them. Here’s the first paragraph of the declaration:
Clarification
“For the honour and glory of the holy Catholic Church, for the consolation of the much troubled faithful, and for the peace of their conscience, the undersigned, members until now of the fraternity of Saint Pius X, declare with profound regret over the illicit consecrations of bishops on 30 June [1988] that they have remained within the Catholic Church as pars sanior of this same Fraternity, and that they have but one desire: to be able to live as a religious society in this Church and place themselves at her service under the authority, of course, of the Roman Pontiff, her supreme head.”
You can read the rest of the document here:
fssp.org/en/declfond.htm
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curlycool89
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I must say that this is a pretty loaded question that betrays your opinion on the matter before we even start the discussion.
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babochka
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It doesn’t necessarily follow that some or all of the FSSP priests would not be priests today without the SSPX. Many of them would have found other routes to the priesthood.
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TrueLight
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Credo_in_Deum
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Last time I checked the priests of the FSSP gave God all the credit for their ordinations.
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