Fundamentalism, morality, & you

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I read the article posted below and it prompted this question.

What is the proper understanding of the Catholic faith in terms of fundamentalism?

There are different connotations of the word, in Christian circles it suggests someone who believes in a literal word for word meaning of the Bible.

In terms, of religion, fundamentalism can mean something along the lines of being a extremist or someone who is willing to kill in the name of religion.

The article posted below suggests a negative meaning of fundamentalism.

As a moral human being and as a Catholic, is there a more moderate view of fundamentalism?

Does fundamentalism suggest at least a basic understanding of morality?

I feel let down by a lot of the relativism in religion, morality, and our culture today.

I look at the roots of fundamentalism of being start to the true experience of religion and not being an example of extremism.

I see the word fundamentalism being misused or an overly negative meaning.

Please provide some direction on helping me to sort this out.

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Forum panelists urge better communication among faiths
By: Dennis Brown
Date: September 22, 2005
A panel of diverse religious leaders participating Thursday (Sept. 22) in the first Notre Dame Forum agreed that more communication and perhaps a bit less certainty among people of different faiths can result in religions that bind rather than divide the world community.

The two-hour forum, titled “Why God? Understanding Religion and Enacting Faith in a Plural World,” drew about 3,000 students, faculty, staff and others to the Joyce Center and was moderated by former NBC Nightly News anchor Tom Brokaw. It was the academic cornerstone of the inauguration of Rev. John I. Jenkins, C.S.C., as the University’s president.

“I believe these issues before us,” Brokaw said in his introductory remarks, “are the most critical issues facing our country and our world.”

In response to a question by Brokaw concerning the violence in the name of Islam, the panel was unified in rejecting fundamentalists of all religious faiths.

“The loudest religious voices today are the people who advocate divisiveness and conflict,” said John C. Danforth, former U.S. senator from Missouri, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, and an ordained Episcopal minister. “Those who advocate otherwise have been strangely quiet, and it’s time for them to speak out.

“Is religion going to pull people together or drive them apart? In my view, we need a major discussion on the purpose of religion, and if we decide it is to pull us together, then we need a major conversation in that regard.”

Building on Danforth’s comments, Naomi Chazan, a professor of political science and African studies at Hebrew University of Jerusalem and a former member of the Israeli Knesset, added:

“It is not religion of any sort that is the problem. The problem is fundamentalism, and that comes in all forms – Jewish, Muslim, Christian. Fundamentalists think they have all the answers to all the questions, and that terrifies me, and it should terrify all of us.”

“Fundamentalism is one of the biggest problems in the world today,” agreed Cardinal Oscar Andrés Rodríguez Maradiaga, S.D.B., archbishop of Tegucigalpa, Honduras.

Danforth clarified his position by saying that rather than fundamentalism, he believes “certainty is the problem – people who believe that they are on God’s side, or they know God’s will.”

The fourth panelist, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, who is the founder and chief executive officer of the American Society for Muslim Advancement (ASMA) and imam of New York City’s largest mosque, observed that the issues that “separate the West and Islam are only partially theological. They also involve economics and power. It is my hope that the American Muslim community will be an important interlocutor between the West and Islam.”

The second half of the forum featured four additional panelists – Notre Dame faculty members Asma Afsaruddin, associate professor of Arabic and Islamic studies in the classics department, and Lawrence E. Sullivan, professor of world religions in the theology and anthropology departments, and students Kathleen Fox, a junior theology and philosophy major from Kansas City, and Kroc Institute graduate student Denis Okello of Uganda.

Many students and faculty who attended the forum prepared for it by exploring the themes of religious diversity and tolerance in a set of readings, chief among them the book “When Faiths Collide” by University of Chicago historian Martin E. Marty.
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The forum was taped by C-SPAN for broadcast at a time to be announced
 
I don’t know if this will answer anything, but I think the problem with fundamentalism is that it wanted to focus on the fundamentals as a reaction against a watering down of Christianity. Also a reaction against making the gospel only social and political. The intentions were good, but the problem is to know the fundamentals is a good thing, but you don’t want to not give time to the other parts. A purely social and political gospel is wrong, but so is neglecting it.

I’m sure thats a little rough because I’m sure that there are a lot of fundamentlist that are decent enough Christians. I think the real problem is when they get isolated, and start to scew their message.

To me it seems Islam has a real big problem with violence and their fundamentalism. I don’t really see it being a problem in the US or Europe with fundamentalism. Most of the tension with religion in the US seems to mostly be from the 1 or 2% of the population on the fringe of religion and fringe of liberals. For instance it seems some will say we must have all Christmas songs out of school programs or we are going to turn into a theocracy. Then you get a huge reaction from the otherside. I’m sure most of the population could care less if there is Christmas songs in a public school program.

I’m sure that Fundamentalist would define it as somthing different than the people who want to define it as a bad thing. But I’m sure that whatever faith you’d say that you are, would never hold up to the simple defination that a person would define it as if they wanted to do so in a negative term.
 
I did attend a fundamentalist church. The people were very sincere, kind, earnest Christians. But…I felt that if I didn’t attend every church function then I was being judged as a bad Christian. In some ways my church was almost cult like. My family’s life revolved around church services.

Fundamentalist have a simplistic view of life and the bible. Everything is black and white. Yes, there are absolutes but some situations are more complex. The more extreme the fundamentalists the less likely they are to see the complexities of life.

The bible is not just interpretted literally but rules are added to it. For example: no alcohol. I have nothing against tee totalers but judging against anothers christianity by their light consumption of alcohol is mistaken and unbiblical.

I can only vouch for myself, but I felt that I became more judgemental. I believe that it was because we were taught over and over that if a person is truely saved then they will act in a certain manner. Depending on the fundamentalist church that you belong to this could be anything from women always wearing dresses and long hair to men can only have short hair cuts. The results are that you judge another christian’s salvation by their outward and external proofs.

Just as a side note, in my eyes not every one who practices sola scriptura or has strong morals based on the bible is fundamentalist. Fundamentalists are more extreme-at least the church that I attended was.
 
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. For instance it seems some will say we must have all Christmas songs out of school programs or we are going to turn into a theocracy. Then you get a huge reaction from the otherside. I’m sure most of the population could care less if there is Christmas songs in a public school program.
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Maybe a better example from the fundamentalist part would be those schools that can no longer use the word Halloween to describe their festivals but must say Fall or Autumn festival instead, because they are afraid that they will offend a vocal few.
 
Hey Deb1 or anyone else. To me when you think of dangerous groups, as far as going out and attacking people, I just don’t see the Christian Fundamentalist as one. It could maybe morph into it one day, but right now no. I could see if they got a lot of political power, I don’t see that though. The most the fring groups, on either side, can do in the US is to through up some lawsuits. Would I be wrong in characterizing it in that way?
 
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deb1:
Maybe a better example from the fundamentalist part would be those schools that can no longer use the word Halloween to describe their festivals but must say Fall or Autumn festival instead, because they are afraid that they will offend a vocal few.
Hehehe, I was trying to bring an idea from the nonreligious-fundamentalist group, but I see actually that could work for a few Christian Fundamentalist groups too.
 
The word means different things to different audiences. That’s dangerous.

The worst definition is the one often used in mainstream media:
A person who believes that there are objective moral truths, and that those who believe to the contrary are wrong.

This definition, naturally, defines all faithful catholics as fundamentalists.

Some of the quotes really amused me. “Certainty” is a hallmark of fundamentalism? So the only kind of ‘good’ religious belief is a vague one that you don’t put a lot of stock in? LOL.

I must say I’m not surprised at the tone and the meeting being associated with Notre Dame U.

I find it strange that people can’t figure out how to discuss their differences civilly and respectfully instead of pretending that mutually contradictory beliefs can BOTH be right.

I don’t need to validate Islam. I think it is a misguided offshoot of christianity started by a meglomaniac creep. Muslims have similar sentiments about the early church fathers and the way they supposedly invented the resurrection and divinity statements of Jesus. But I can dismiss their belief system without being uncivil to muslim people. Why can’t we all behave that way?

Why don’t conferences discuss tolerance in BEHAVIOR instead of trying to castrate everyone’s beliefs?
 
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