General Predicament

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Hello all,

I am still a relative newcomer to this forum so hopefully I am approaching the set of questions / issues I have appropriately. If not, hopefully someone can direct me on my way.

I am an undergraduate college student (Catholic, of course), and I have been dating a non-denominational Christian for almost three years. She has become fed up with her non-denominational church’s approach to Christianity: evangelize, evangelize, evangelize! Apparently, they do a poor job of actually conveying a value system, belief structure, etc, and focus too much on just getting more people to the church.

So, this summer, she has attended Mass with me and my family on Sundays. She admits she is attracted to the Catholic faith, and with that, I have done my best to give her as much information about it as I can. She likes what she has found in the Church.

But I am becoming increasingly frustrated with what I see are “obstacles” to really showing someone the Truth of the Catholic Church as an American in the 21st century. So many of the new-age Christian churches that have sprung up focus so heavily on entertaining the people that it is ridiculous. Thankfully, my girlfriend realizes that a church is meaningless if it is really just making a mockery of the truth about Christ. It is not the “orthodoxy” and traditional approach that discourages my efforts.

Instead, it seems that so many times Catholocism is America is something into which people are born and do not take very seriously. It is something to which a lot of Catholics only dedicate one hour a week - and out of a duty! - and then forget during the week. In other words, as unintentionally condescending as it sounds, there are a lot of “bad” - or not devout - Catholics in this part of the world. How does someone like myself resolve this dissonance?

How do I explain to her that the Catholic Church is truly a magnificent institution established by Christ himself when so many of the people born into its membership couldn’t care less?

It seems like non-denominational churches and Protestant churches are a lot more enthusiastic about their faith. Catholics know it isn’t a statement about the faiths themselves. It is merely a reflection of the fact that those churches do not have so much of the…(struggling with this word)…deadweight that an inherited religion like Catholicism might.

In conclusion, my thesis might be this: in America’s individualistic society, it seems that evangelization as nearly impossible.

I’m trying my best. I am trying to present her with some Catholic theology as well as a basic understanding of the Church’s structure: sacraments, authority, etc.

Thoughts, anyone? I’m desperate.
 
I’m very enthusiastic about my faith. I am just unable to attend weekday masses. I feel hurt when people say I am not devout because I only devote an hour a week.😦
 
Statistics show that Protestant and Catholic attendance rates are similar. Catholics are generally less overt in their spirituality than Protestants. I once heard it said that Protestant shout good days to give glory to God, and Catholics speak nothing of it out of humility. Neither is bad, its just a different style.
 
I understand your frustration. When I was on the other side, as an Evangelical, all my Catholic friends, and I was surrounded by them, were very uninterested in religion or spiritual things or discussions of that nature. They considered anyone who showed any kind of love for Christ to be odd or a “holy roller”.:rolleyes: I was very puzzled by this and was myself convinced that if Catholicism ever was a true Holy Spirit led Church, it had long lost it’s way, otherwise it’s members would be different.

Of course, the Lord had to show me a few things.😉

My only advice to you is to BE the kind of Catholic that will in time persuade her that you are aligned on the side of the fullness of truth, no matter what the majority of Mass attending Catholics seem to portray. If her heart is genuinely searching to know God in all His truth, she will end up home in the Catholic Church, He will lead her there. Just be there, be faithful, encouraging when you can, and pray for her.👍
 
I’m very enthusiastic about my faith. I am just unable to attend weekday masses. I feel hurt when people say I am not devout because I only devote an hour a week.😦
Don’t worry - I doubt he was talking about you. He means those who attend Mass on Sunday, and then don’t do anything else with their faith for the rest of the week. Even if you can’t attend church I’m sure you pray - and your posting here is showing your devotion 👍

Catholig
 
…She has become fed up with her non-denominational church’s approach to Christianity: evangelize, evangelize, evangelize! Apparently, they do a poor job of actually conveying a value system, belief structure, etc, and focus too much on just getting more people to the church.

So, this summer, she has attended Mass with me and my family on Sundays. She admits she is attracted to the Catholic faith, and with that, I have done my best to give her as much information about it as I can. She likes what she has found in the Church.

But I am becoming increasingly frustrated with what I see are “obstacles” to really showing someone the Truth of the Catholic Church as an American in the 21st century. So many of the new-age Christian churches that have sprung up focus so heavily on entertaining the people that it is ridiculous. Thankfully, my girlfriend realizes that a church is meaningless if it is really just making a mockery of the truth about Christ. It is not the “orthodoxy” and traditional approach that discourages my efforts…In other words, as unintentionally condescending as it sounds, there are a lot of “bad” - or not devout - Catholics in this part of the world. How does someone like myself resolve this dissonance?

How do I explain to her that the Catholic Church is truly a magnificent institution established by Christ himself when so many of the people born into its membership couldn’t care less?..In conclusion, my thesis might be this: in America’s individualistic society, it seems that evangelization as nearly impossible. I’m trying my best. I am trying to present her with some Catholic theology as well as a basic understanding of the Church’s structure: sacraments, authority, etc.

Thoughts, anyone? I’m desperate.
I don’t know how helpful the Catholic Student Center or organizaiton at your college/university might be, but that is a good place to find devout Catholics in similar circumstances with whom you can make friends and even worship together. Our pastor at our parish is also the Spiritual Director of the group at the nearby Univ. of Central Florida, where there are over 350 great college kids who get together often, not just on weekends and encourage and spiritually support one another. That is the most likely place for you to look first, and your girlfriend would also be welcomed there.

Peace to you both
Mike
 
How do I explain to her that the Catholic Church is truly a magnificent institution established by Christ himself when so many of the people born into its membership couldn’t care less?

Thoughts, anyone? I’m desperate.
I would say besides the college outreach someone else mentioned you interact with the 20% of your parish that is active. About 80% of any parish just comes and goes and not much else. Focus on that 20% by getting involved in the parish more (or student center). This includes helping out for masses (Eucharistic Minister, lector, sacrastin, usher, etc…), bible study, small discussion groups on different parts of the teachings, Theology on Tap, etc… (whatever your parish(s) offer).
 
Hello all,

How do I explain to her that the Catholic Church is truly a magnificent institution established by Christ himself when so many of the people born into its membership couldn’t care less?

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just a general response to OP, focus less on “what everybody else is doing or is failing to do” and focus on what you, the Catholic she knows best, does do or does not do. Take her to Mass where liturgy is conducted with solemnity and reverence (if you are really at ND the Mass we see on the Hallmark Channel from Sacred Heart chapel is awesome), show her in your own life how you love your faith, are eager to learn more, embrace sacred scripture and try to make it part of your life etc.
 
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