Genuflecting before receiving communion

[Brendan]

Actually, not more reverent, but the proper way to receive:

From Lecture XXIII, paragraph 21 on the Mysteries of the Sacred Liturgy and Communion by Cyril of Jerusalem, Bishop and Father of the Church (3rd Century):

***In approaching therefore, come not with thy wrists extended, or thy fingers spread; but make thy left hand a throne for the fight, as for that which is to receive a King. And having hollowed thy palm, receive the Body of Christ, saying over it, Amen. ***

Peace and all good!

In the same lecture, he also argued for us to place the species of wine on our eyes, forehead, ears and nose.

Then, after you have partaken of the Body of Christ, come forward only for the cup of the Blood. Do not stretch out your hands but bow low as if making an act of obeisance and a profound act of veneration. Say ‘Amen’. and sanctify yourself by partaking of Christ’s Blood also. While the moisture is still on your lips, touch them with your hands and sanctify your eyes, your forehead, and all your other sensory organs

Is that something else we should do participate in the most reverent reception possible

 

[Neofight]

Good point. Intinction comes to mind.

If that’s the case, why was it banned for over a thousand years?

Oh no…maybe it means all the 1962 missal is a product of heresy? My goodness, I hope nobody from the Traditional Catholic forum sees this…they will not be happy to find out they really aren’t all that traditional!

 

[Neofight]

In the same lecture, he also argued for us to place the species of wine on our eyes, forehead, ears and nose.

Is that something else we should do participate in the most reverent reception possible

Yes he did say that (in the same paragraph)…and I do that frequently…nothing makes more theological sense to me, especially in light of last Sunday’s and next Sunday’s gospel reading…

Was your shrug an indication of discomfort with such an action, or that it is irreverent, or a shrug indicating you were just raising a question?

I think its beautiful, myself, but would never impose it on anyone else…however, I do sometime get a little testy when others insists anything other than the way they do anything is not proper, irreverent, illicit, sinful, etc.

Peace and all good!

 

[Brendan]

Yes he did say that (in the same paragraph)…and I do that frequently…nothing makes more theological sense to me, especially in light of last Sunday’s and next Sunday’s gospel reading…!

Please explain the theological rational.

 

[Neofight]

Please explain the theological rational.

I see the action as both an acknowledgement and remedy of Isaiah 6:9-10 (and Acts 28:26-27).

John 15:1-17, especially 1-8, had strong Eucharistic overtones; with consumption of the body and blood of Christ a means of “abiding” in him, and him in us. But, I view the precious blood to have miraculous properties that are not only released by ingesting by swallowing, but that provide the healing qualities spoken of by Isaiah that will allow us to perceive and not just see, and understand and not just hear.

Peace and all good!

 

[ProVobis]

Oh no…maybe it means all the 1962 missal is a product of heresy? My goodness, I hope nobody from the Traditional Catholic forum sees this…they will not be happy to find out they really aren’t all that traditional!

So this is all about who really can wear a traditionalist label? I believe you were the one who brought it up.

Doesn’t sound very reverent to me.

 

[Neofight]

So this is all about who really can wear a traditionalist label?

Doesn’t sound very reverent to me.

Probably doesnt…but to answer your question, no it wasn’t about who can…however, many do, but few thst do really are.

 

[ProVobis]

Oh no…maybe it means all the 1962 missal is a product of heresy? My goodness, I hope nobody from the Traditional Catholic forum sees this…they will not be happy to find out they really aren’t all that traditional!

So this is all about who really can wear a traditionalist label? I believe you were the one who brought it up.

Sounds more like baiting than reverence to me. And I shouldn’t haven’t have taken it. I’m done with this thread.

 

[Neofight]

So this is all about who really can wear a traditionalist label? I believe you were the one who brought it up.

Sounds more like baiting than reverence to me. And I shouldn’t haven’t have taken it. I’m done with this thread.

My apologies…I should have left the dialogue with you alone…I thought it was light hearted joshing. I didn’t mean to or know your reaction was annoyance or senstivity…my bad.

Peace an all good!

 

[pianistclare]

What he prefers does not matter, really it is what Jesus prefers. And He will do that through the Church. The Church says all of what is mentioned is acceptable.

The liturgy is not just something to prefer. But, yes, perhaps talking with him would be good, just to ask questions about the whole matter. It is a good idea.

I just mean to say, if he tries to ban you from genuflecting or kneeling, you do not have to stop.
PAX
Isaac

What I MEANT was…
…the pastor is fully capable of explaining the Church’s position and it’s norms.

This threads are always a venue for arguing. I’m out.

 

[Brendan]

I see the action as both an acknowledgement and remedy of Isaiah 6:9-10 (and Acts 28:26-27).

John 15:1-17, especially 1-8, had strong Eucharistic overtones; with consumption of the body and blood of Christ a means of “abiding” in him, and him in us.

Those commands are fulfilled in the anointing done at Baptism

But, I view the precious blood to have miraculous properties that are not only released by ingesting by swallowing, but that provide the healing qualities spoken of by Isaiah that will allow us to perceive and not just see, and understand and not just hear.

If the theology is so compelling, why does the Church not pour the species of wine on the person during Anointing?

 

[Neofight]

Those commands are fulfilled in the anointing done at Baptism

If the theology is so compelling, why does the Church not pour the species of wine on the person during Anointing?

Brandon, as I stated on the onset, my aim is not to force my views on you, but only to state them. You asked for my justification, but it appears you weren’t interested in my insight, but rather to object to it. That being said, my intentions of stating and not forcing my opinion was met. Whether yours was met is for you to decide, but if it was to make me see things exactly as you see things I would chance to say it failed.

Peace and all good!

 

[Brendan]

Brandon, as I stated on the onset, my aim is not to force my views on you, but only to state them. You asked for my justification, but it appears you weren’t interested in my insight, but rather to object to it. !

And if you review my posts, you will see that I am asking for your views, in specific, asking for clarifications on them.

For example, this statement

If the theology is so compelling, why does the Church not pour the species of wine on the person during Anointing?

Is that not an opportunity for you to state your views?

 

[MissRose73]

I see many people genuflecting just before receiving Communion when watching the daily Mass on EWTN. Its not a practice I see in the church I attend of as our diocese asks people to bow in some way before receiving Communion.

 

[Aran_Houlihan]

I always genuflect before resiving the blesed sacrament