Geocentrism

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Uhhh - that is exactly what NASA does. They assume a fixed earth in the calculations.
So the sun revolves around the earth. Interesting. The sun which is 333,000 times more massive than the earth is controlled by the mass of the earth and is forced to revolve around the earth. Very interesting.

Mass of earth = 6E+24 kilograms

Mass of sun = 2E+30 kilograms
 
In my science classes we are also told of a heliocentric solar system. From what I know, it sounds right.
 
So the sun revolves around the earth. Interesting. The sun which is 333,000 times more massive than the earth is controlled by the mass of the earth and is forced to revolve around the earth. Very interesting.

Mass of earth = 6E+24 kilograms

Mass of sun = 2E+30 kilograms
You bring up an interesting point. Actually, there is nothing wrong with saying that mathematically, you could conceivably set up a geocentric system, as to a certain extent, motion is relative, so that one frame of reference could be used as easity as another. However, the problem comes in when you try to account for the physical forces, velocities, accelerations, gravitational forces, etc. I don;t see any way for a geocentric theory to account for these forces. As was said above: "A star field with a radius of 14 billion light years and a mass 3x10^27 times that of the earth rotating around the earth once a day and wobbling with a amplitude of 186 million miles at an angle of 23.5 degrees annually is an untenable dynamical system in Newtonian mechanics "
 
Ok does anyone believe in the Ptolemaic Universe.
Nobody with any type of science degree from an accredited college or university. Of course if you have a degree from a unaccredited off-shore degree mill anything is possible.
 
Nobody with any type of science degree from an accredited college or university. Of course if you have a degree from a unaccredited off-shore degree mill anything is possible.
I was merely curious. I does seem impossible for anyone to hold this few, because Jupiter’s moons would shatter this theory.
 
I would encourage everybody to look at this link and then search for solutions for the 3-body problem. After that try to think at the impact of adding perturbations to the classical non-relativistic model and you will see that is pretty arrogant from a “scientific” point of view to choose a geocentric scenario.

Was the universe created in a geocentric manner? What did happen after the original sin? Did we loose our position in the universe together with a lot of other things? Is the garden of Eden at the center of the universe?
 
Is the garden of Eden at the center of the universe?
No.

The Garden of Eden is either in the Persian Gulf or it is actually in Jerusalem. Most of the Icons and Stylized pictures of the Crucifixion show Our Lord’s blood trickling down onto Adam’s bones.

http://www.catholicposters.com/shop/images/products/fullimages/1137.jpg

If you like the Icon, one of our members Fr. Thomas J. Loya wrote the Icon. You can contact him if you like. No, I’m not his parishioner either. (I should be so lucky.)😊
 
@Volodymyr 988:

Regardless, wherever it was, it’s not here anymore.
 
@Volodymyr 988:

Regardless, wherever it was, it’s not here anymore.
That is exactly my point. I think that we are limiting ourselves if we look at geocentrism only at this point in time and only from simple “scientific” point of view. My personal take is that the picture is much bigger than what we imagine.
 
That is exactly my point. I think that we are limiting ourselves if we look at geocentrism only at this point in time and only from simple “scientific” point of view. My personal take is that the picture is much bigger than what we imagine.
As a physicist, what is your take? You are more qualified than most of us, tell us what you know.
 
Nobody with any type of science degree from an accredited college or university. Of course if you have a degree from a unaccredited off-shore degree mill anything is possible.
You are sure right about that. They would believe what their professors taught without any means to verify. It doesn’t surprise me a bit.
 
Both are theories, nothing more, nothing less.

Personally, I don’t feel like I am continually spinning at over 1000 miles per hour.

And since no one has proven or disproven either theory, each of us is welcome to adopt helio, or geo, without insult.

Most agree that if you could be removed, perhaps to the edge of the universe, you could then know for sure.

As to the anti-semitic claims… it is sad that there is so much animosity … and those opposed to Sungenis most often come to this and other sites to complain. Sungenis, on the other hand, uses only his own site to state his positions… often blunt and hard hitting, but most always with facts, details, and proofs.

As to his bishop… the question is that of review of his works… something the bishop does not have any time to do…stalemate.

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Both are theories, nothing more, nothing less.

Personally, I don’t feel like I am continually spinning at over 1000 miles per hour.

And since no one has proven or disproven either theory, each of us is welcome to adopt helio, or geo, without insult…
I don;t think so. I think that the dynamic Newtonian forces of motion are not taken into account in the geocentric theory and therefore it is not reasonable to hold to the theory of geocentrism.
 
those opposed to Sungenis most often come to this and other sites to complain. Sungenis, on the other hand, uses only his own site to state his positions… often blunt and hard hitting, but most always with facts, details, and proofs…
:rolleyes: Give me a break Mr. S. You and people from CAI have come over here to do ads or run interference for Dr. Sungenis too. Who cares if he just writes at his own website? I have good things to say and not so good things to say. Right now there’s real problems because he’s stuck on having to write about Jews. He’s got something bitter against them and it’s not just religion. Why? I don’t know. But its pushing him to do things he shoudln’t be doing and we know it. It’s driving me crazy to see all the good he can do go down like this!

And it’s not right that he said he’d have imprimaturs before bishops reviewed his books. And then they told untruths to everyone about it. I was one of the people they played games with and I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt! So don’t complain to me anyway.
As to his bishop… the question is that of review of his works… something the bishop does not have any time to do…stalemate.
:mad: This is wrong, come on! Dr. Sungenis and some of his workers from CAI said he was going to another bishop too on his apocalyspe CASB. That was like a year ago. And still no imprimaturs. I just looked and saw that hes got another CASB out on romans and james and their not saying he has an imprimatur on that one either.

Its not Catholic to take sides against bishops like this. It’s obvious he’s got credebility problems with the bishops because of his over the top writing about Jews. And it can’t help that he attacked his bishop and wont listen to him after he said his bishop ordered him to stop writting about Jews totally.
“My bishop then took back his previous offer to allow me to change the “tone” of my articles and forthwith ordered me to stop writing about the Jews and Judaism altogether. I subsequently wrote the bishop a letter saying that…if he wanted to reverse his position once again and censor me, he would have to do so under the aegis of a canonical trial, at which time I would appeal to the Vatican in order to have the matter fully adjudicated” Dr. Sungenis in February 2008
That’s not Catholic. I’m sorry. Since when do Catholics tell bishops NO! when they order us to do something and say we’ll only listen after they force us into court?

Well this is one Catholic who isn’t going to pick sides against a bishop just because I like Dr. Sungenis and I love his books. And now there must be a problem with another bishop because there still aren’t any imprimaturs.

Now is the time to pray for him and help him to repair his relatonship with his bishop not to make excuses that teach people the wrong way to go about things!

Now for geocntrism I used to believe it more before all of this happened. I turned geo mostly because of Dr. Sungenis but I lost some trust since everything has gone down. I have good Catholic freinds who know science better than me and they thought I was whacked out for thinking geo might be true. So I’m kind of staying on the side.
 
How long did this last change of direction last? About the same as the other ones? What is this, like the fifth time? 😦

RS in January 25 2008-
Because such political, cultural and social criticism of the Jews can so easily be misunderstood, I have decided to refrain from any more dealings with those aspects of Jewish life. I’ll leave criticism of Jewish politics and culture to people more capable than I apparently am. My expertise is in theology, and that is where I will put all my efforts. Hence, any future dealings that I have with the Jews, whether on our website or in published articles, will only concern the theological side of things. As you can see by the Jewish material presently on our website, every article is about theological matters, and that will always be the policy of our apostolate from here on out.
RS in May 2008 -

An article about Jewish media control by a fella who thinks Jews financed the holocaust and that Hitler was a Jew.
bellarminetfnews.blogspot.com/2008/05/jim-condit-warns-of-abcs-jesus-mary-and.html

17 pages on the Revolutionary Jew
catholicintl.com/articles/The%20Revolutionary%20Jew%20Review.pdf

Article with the title:
Netanyahu Says 9-11 is Good for Israel

Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

Still praying here. Need a miracle. Who’s the best saint for this one? Maybe St. Paul? Trying to keep up hope.
 
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