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German cardinal criticizes ‘synodal path,’ exhorts German Church to ‘remain Catholic’
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arvo
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The most important thing is not to shut down the deliberation, reflection and thinking. I like that this happens in the community of theologians, e.g. see this article from the jesuit academic journal “Theological studies” “Truly Human Sexual Acts: A Response to Patrick Lee and Robert George”.
There is also the note from the academic of sexual ethics jesuit Father James F. Keenan who suggest virtua ethics approach to the sexuality - not only to those who suffer from sexuality but also for those “righteous” who try to “teach” and “heal”. Is this always done in the manner of humility, charity and with the compassion? It is easy to go easy through life, have wealthy parent, have good eduaction, be likeable, have relationships and marriage and then teach others how to live. It is easy, but it is worthless.
World is changing, thechnological changes, competition with automation creates gig economy, precariat, job insecurity, bad jobs and so on, so on. We should handle it. But we should also acknowledge that it has impact on the chances and opportunities to build family and grow children.
And we should put procreation in the wider context. Evolution, death and children were required in the times when the development on humans happened by change-trial-and-error-of-evolution-and-lifecycle. Today CRISPR therapy is being introduced (I have heard even about human trials or therapies for cancer), there is anti-aging and immortality therapies in the pipeline (The Rejuvenation Roadmap | Tracking Age Reversal Technology), so - there is no need for procreation-children-death-evolution to cure and improve the genome of the human beings. All this is emerging to be handled in the engineered ways - simulation and mathematical modelling decides on the optimal therapies (CRISPR edits and tools) and then this is used. Why should we go through suffering and death if we can start to cure the already living people from the illnesses and the illness of aging?
Well, these are uncertain waters. The ways can be different. But we should not stop thinking and deliberating. Church should not avoid the developments that happen. Even more - if those developments cure people and relieve them from suffering, then we should support that.
And this perspective on the procreation-vs-improvement-of-living people can also have impact on th debate about sexuality.
Well - there are norms for today. But there will be norms for tomorrow as well and the tomorrow will be different. The signs of time will be different.
There is also the note from the academic of sexual ethics jesuit Father James F. Keenan who suggest virtua ethics approach to the sexuality - not only to those who suffer from sexuality but also for those “righteous” who try to “teach” and “heal”. Is this always done in the manner of humility, charity and with the compassion? It is easy to go easy through life, have wealthy parent, have good eduaction, be likeable, have relationships and marriage and then teach others how to live. It is easy, but it is worthless.
World is changing, thechnological changes, competition with automation creates gig economy, precariat, job insecurity, bad jobs and so on, so on. We should handle it. But we should also acknowledge that it has impact on the chances and opportunities to build family and grow children.
And we should put procreation in the wider context. Evolution, death and children were required in the times when the development on humans happened by change-trial-and-error-of-evolution-and-lifecycle. Today CRISPR therapy is being introduced (I have heard even about human trials or therapies for cancer), there is anti-aging and immortality therapies in the pipeline (The Rejuvenation Roadmap | Tracking Age Reversal Technology), so - there is no need for procreation-children-death-evolution to cure and improve the genome of the human beings. All this is emerging to be handled in the engineered ways - simulation and mathematical modelling decides on the optimal therapies (CRISPR edits and tools) and then this is used. Why should we go through suffering and death if we can start to cure the already living people from the illnesses and the illness of aging?
Well, these are uncertain waters. The ways can be different. But we should not stop thinking and deliberating. Church should not avoid the developments that happen. Even more - if those developments cure people and relieve them from suffering, then we should support that.
And this perspective on the procreation-vs-improvement-of-living people can also have impact on th debate about sexuality.
Well - there are norms for today. But there will be norms for tomorrow as well and the tomorrow will be different. The signs of time will be different.
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Randolph
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You need to realize that it was Christ who founded the Catholic Church and entrusted the care of the faithful in the hands of His bride—the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church would cease to be Catholic and would no longer belong to Christ—if she departs from Christ and succumbs to the demands and wants of the world. In their own free will, people can choose to belong to the Church. Likewise, the Church also teaches that for people, who in their own free will and in good conscience, reject the tenets of the catholic faith, they can choose to not (and probably should not) belong to the Church.World is changing, thechnological changes, competition with automation creates gig economy, precariat, job insecurity, bad jobs and so on, so on. We should handle it. But we should also acknowledge that it has impact on the chances and opportunities to build family and grow children.
The deposit of faith and truths are in the Church. Christ entrusted the Holy Spirit to guide and protect the Church after His own ministry on earth. It is not up to the changing world to re-define what the Church would/should be. It was Christ who founded the Church to spread God’s news and love to the world, and to bring forth the salvation to souls.
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AlbMagno
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You are assuming that human genomic therapy is moral, which, as far as I know, hasn’t been concluded yet by the Catholic Church.Today CRISPR therapy is being introduced (I have heard even about human trials or therapies for cancer), there is anti-aging and immortality therapies in the pipeline (The Rejuvenation Roadmap | Tracking Age Reversal Technology), so - there is no need for procreation-children-death-evolution to cure and improve the genome of the human beings
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TomH1
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The Church seems to have stopped evanglising society. Modern society now seems to be evangelising the Church. No longer are the sacred truths maintained but we are expected to bend towards what modern, Western society wants. We need to stand firm and maintain the Faith even if this is not what secular society encourages or promotes.
TheWryWren
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Well this is good news! I was starting to think the last good thing to come out of Germany was Pope Emeritus Benedict!
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