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Sugnaflow
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How is the protestant concept of “glorification” different from the catholic concept of “purgation” as it relates to purgatory?
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GEddie
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“Glorification” takes place in Heaven, when we are fitted with our pneumatikon soma, and are alive with our LORD; whereas those doing Purgatory are still separated from our LORD. Also, no suffering or punishment is associated with glorification.
ICXC NIKA.
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Sugnaflow
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Is my understanding correct, however, that purgatory in the Catholic view can be viewed as a “process” and/or a “place”?
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GEddie
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That is correct, although since Purgatory takes place in eternity (our time having been dropped with our natural human soma), the ideas of both ‘process’ and ‘place’ are changed. All processes and places known in human life are timebound.
Our pneumatikon soma has no time. So what we experience when we open our new eyes will be qualitatively different to our timebound human life.
God bless and ICXC NIKA!
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promethius
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Generally I find the term “place” to be deconstructive in talking with protestants about purgatory. This is because to a catholic the term has its proper meaning: it is a state of being outside of perfect beatific vision. But to someone who DOESN’T think like a catholic in that sense, they think of a physical place, similar to saying purgatory is on the porch outside heaven.
So I leave it as discussing purgatory as a process. Ultimately, “glorification” and “purgation”, despite the minor theological errors listed above, mean the same thing.
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