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I have what I think is a terrible eating habit. Even when I’m not hungry I want to eat. Thinking about the whole problem, I think that the problem is that I get some kind of pleasure at the taste of food, some kind of bliss that causes me to “escape.” I know that that is seemingly an exaggeration, but it is not. For some reason, I think, whenever I eat, I have a sense of enjoyment. For that reason, sometimes, even when I’m full, I’ll continue eating. I’m not “large”, I’m quite skinny. But I know if I don’t get out of this habit now, I will soon gain too much weight. I think that this is a sin, a form of idolatry because it puts food in place of God, who is the only one who can provide true happiness. I don’t know what to do. I have tried to *not *eat, but it doesn’t work. What should I do?
 
I have what I think is a terrible eating habit. Even when I’m not hungry I want to eat. Thinking about the whole problem, I think that the problem is that I get some kind of pleasure at the taste of food, some kind of bliss that causes me to “escape.” I know that that is seemingly an exaggeration, but it is not. For some reason, I think, whenever I eat, I have a sense of enjoyment. For that reason, sometimes, even when I’m full, I’ll continue eating. I’m not “large”, I’m quite skinny. But I know if I don’t get out of this habit now, I will soon gain too much weight. I think that this is a sin, a form of idolatry because it puts food in place of God, who is the only one who can provide true happiness. I don’t know what to do. I have tried to *not *eat, but it doesn’t work. What should I do?
It’s okay to enjoy food. God made food enjoyable. That helps food serve its biological purpose of providing nourshment to our bodies.

Of course gluttony is a sin, and fasting has a place in the spiritual life. But some people swing to the opposite extreme and obsess about dieting and weight, along with obsessing about food. I highlighted some of the things you wrote that make me think it would be better to talk about this with someone who knows you rather than asking us about this on the internet. While skinny people certain can struggle with gluttony, I think this might be a situation to discuss with a priest who can see you face to face.
 
The moral aspect of eating is one thing, and that’s a big thing.

But, you may be describing a physical problem that has not yet been diagnosed.

If you don’t know, use your local resources to look up death certificates for your relatives, and see if there is anything possibly genetic in your family history.

I have discovered that I don’t drink enough with my average lunch and supper meal. I have the same feeling of wanting to eat more, when I’ve eaten the normal amount of food that should satisfy me. I have to drink at least 40 ounces of diet pop and/or water to get rid of that feeling that I want to eat more. And, believe me, I go through this every day.

Even if you handle this as a moral problem, you still have to deal with it on some physiological level.

An article on something related to this came to my attention, something in a legitimate scientific publication. They showed two sibling mice who had been raised under different conditions, and one was “normal” looking and the other was obese and had abnormally colored hair. During their respective gestation, the nutrition of the female parent mouse was varied in significant ways, demonstrating this result, as least in this presumably simpler level of the animal kingdom.
 
It’s okay to enjoy food. God made food enjoyable. That helps food serve its biological purpose of providing nourshment to our bodies.

Of course gluttony is a sin, and fasting has a place in the spiritual life. But some people swing to the opposite extreme and obsess about dieting and weight, along with obsessing about food. I highlighted some of the things you wrote that make me think it would be better to talk about this with someone who knows you rather than asking us about this on the internet. While skinny people certain can struggle with gluttony, I think this might be a situation to discuss with a priest who can see you face to face.
I’m probably a little concerned with my weight (I think that about half of us are), but that isn’t the only problem. My other concern is that of self-control. I have trouble controlling myself. To fast is extremely difficult because of this indulgence in food. Avarice also plays a part. I can get greedy and take all of the food and refreshments I want without regard to others. But you are right, I should talk to someone. I just don’t understand my craving.
God have mercy on my soul!
The moral aspect of eating is one thing, and that’s a big thing.

But, you may be describing a physical problem that has not yet been diagnosed.

If you don’t know, use your local resources to look up death certificates for your relatives, and see if there is anything possibly genetic in your family history.

I have discovered that I don’t drink enough with my average lunch and supper meal. I have the same feeling of wanting to eat more, when I’ve eaten the normal amount of food that should satisfy me. I have to drink at least 40 ounces of diet pop and/or water to get rid of that feeling that I want to eat more. And, believe me, I go through this every day.

Even if you handle this as a moral problem, you still have to deal with it on some physiological level.

An article on something related to this came to my attention, something in a legitimate scientific publication. They showed two sibling mice who had been raised under different conditions, and one was “normal” looking and the other was obese and had abnormally colored hair. During their respective gestation, the nutrition of the female parent mouse was varied in significant ways, demonstrating this result, as least in this presumably simpler level of the animal kingdom.
I have no doubt that the problem has a physiological and psychological aspect. It seems that their is a mental want for pleasure. I think I’m *addicted * to food. I heard that when you get addicted to smoking or something, the brain is stimulated and as a result of the satisfaction gained, you crave more. I infer that it is likewise for me and food. I think that I’m somehow stimulated by food much like a coffee drinker is stimulated by the caffeine within coffee.
 
I have what I think is a terrible eating habit. Even when I’m not hungry I want to eat. Thinking about the whole problem, I think that the problem is that I get some kind of pleasure at the taste of food, some kind of bliss that causes me to “escape.” I know that that is seemingly an exaggeration, but it is not. For some reason, I think, whenever I eat, I have a sense of enjoyment. For that reason, sometimes, even when I’m full, I’ll continue eating. I’m not “large”, I’m quite skinny. But I know if I don’t get out of this habit now, I will soon gain too much weight. I think that this is a sin, a form of idolatry because it puts food in place of God, who is the only one who can provide true happiness. I don’t know what to do. I have tried to *not *eat, but it doesn’t work. What should I do?
Sometimes it is better to not focus on what is sinful. It is better to spend time focused on that which is virtuous. Opposite of gluttony is temperance. If you seek what is filled with virtue and that which is holy you sort of weed out the other problems of life. There are only so many hours in the day. If you find ways to focus on virtue then there is little to no time left to sin. Virtues are habits. Start small and simply, but consistently each day practice a virtue.

Here is one link which discusses temperance in a in depth manner:

catholiceducation.org/articles/education/ed0281.html

God bless
 
I have what I think is a terrible eating habit. Even when I’m not hungry I want to eat. Thinking about the whole problem, I think that the problem is that I get some kind of pleasure at the taste of food, some kind of bliss that causes me to “escape.” I know that that is seemingly an exaggeration, but it is not. For some reason, I think, whenever I eat, I have a sense of enjoyment. For that reason, sometimes, even when I’m full, I’ll continue eating. I’m not “large”, I’m quite skinny. But I know if I don’t get out of this habit now, I will soon gain too much weight. I think that this is a sin, a form of idolatry because it puts food in place of God, who is the only one who can provide true happiness. I don’t know what to do. I have tried to *not *eat, but it doesn’t work. What should I do?
Compulsive overeating and alcoholism are twin disorders that are progressive in nature and can even be fatal if not treated. Like the alcoholic who cannot stop after the first drink is taken, the compulsive eater must avoid the foods and behaviors that cause him to overeat. These foods trigger an adverse reaction in the body of the compulsive eater that sets up a physical craving that makes it impossible to stop until you feel sick. Both disorders are mental, physical, and spiritual in nature.

For various reasons, not all compulsive overeaters are obese. Like Alcoholics Anonymous (AA), Overeaters Anonymous (OA) has a large number of success stories in overcoming this. You might want to check out the Overeater’s Anonymous webite for more information.

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Just be sure it is Gluttony, because metabolisms are weird sometimes. If you’re eating a lot and your body isn’t gaining weight something must be happening to the Calories. I’d talk to a nutritionist and a priest about this. . I eat constantly and I’m still 45lbs underweight.
 
I’m probably a little concerned with my weight (I think that about half of us are), but that isn’t the only problem. My other concern is that of self-control. I have trouble controlling myself. To fast is extremely difficult because of this indulgence in food. Avarice also plays a part. I can get greedy and take all of the food and refreshments I want without regard to others. But you are right, I should talk to someone. I just don’t understand my craving.

I think I’m *addicted *to food. I heard that when you get addicted to smoking or something, the brain is stimulated and as a result of the satisfaction gained, you crave more. I infer that it is likewise for me and food. I think that I’m somehow stimulated by food much like a coffee drinker is stimulated by the caffeine within coffee.
Yes, please do talk to someone who knows you. You say you feel out of control because you can’t fast for long. People suffering from the eating disorder annorexia nervosa sometimes refuse to eat because not eating makes them feel “in control.” I keep going back to your statement you made that you are skinny.

Your body may be telling you to eat because you need more calories than most to maintain a healthy weight. Are you a teenager? Teenager bodies have higher calorie requirements than adult bodies. As we get older, our bodies don’t require as much food to maintain our weight.

While I understand some people use the word “addiction” to talk about excessive eating with a psychological component, unlike alcohol, drugs or coffee, humans need food to live. Food serves a basic biological need of nourishing our bodies, and we cannot survive without it.

Food can also serve a psychological aspect, (which sometimes people abuse), but can be a positive psychological experience, such as helping to build family and community. The Bible tells many stories of God providing food for His people. Notice that Jesus broke bread with His disciples, and we continue to do this at Mass as Jesus gives Himself to us in the form of bread and wine.
 
Yes, please do talk to someone who knows you. You say you feel out of control because you can’t fast for long. People suffering from the eating disorder annorexia nervosa sometimes refuse to eat because not eating makes them feel “in control.” I keep going back to your statement you made that you are skinny.

**Your body may be telling you to eat because you need more calories than most to maintain a healthy weight. Are you a teenager? Teenager bodies have higher calorie requirements than adult bodies. As we get older, our bodies don’t require as much food to maintain our weight.
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While I understand some people use the word “addiction” to talk about excessive eating with a psychological component, unlike alcohol, drugs or coffee, humans need food to live. Food serves a basic biological need of nourishing our bodies, and we cannot survive without it.

Food can also serve a psychological aspect, (which sometimes people abuse), but can be a positive psychological experience, such as helping to build family and community. The Bible tells many stories of God providing food for His people. Notice that Jesus broke bread with His disciples, and we continue to do this at Mass as Jesus gives Himself to us in the form of bread and wine.
Can’t disagree there. At 16, I can eat a 800 Cal dinner and be hungry 2hrs later.
 
A related question, if I may.

Is drinking to excess also considered “Gluttony”? I eat very little but will consume upwards of a gallon of soda a day. And should that be confessed as gluttony or drinking to excess? “Drinking to excess” seems to IMPLY alcohol which is NOT the case and “gluttony” seems to IMPLY food which is also not the case in my situation.
 
A related question, if I may.

Is drinking to excess also considered “Gluttony”? I eat very little but will consume upwards of a gallon of soda a day. And should that be confessed as gluttony or drinking to excess? “Drinking to excess” seems to IMPLY alcohol which is NOT the case and “gluttony” seems to IMPLY food which is also not the case in my situation.
Does it draw you away from God and tempt you to do evil? Do you feel it’s putting your body in harm? If it doesn’t draw you away from God it certainly isn’t healthy to drink that much. Might want to talk to a doctor or a nutritionist about the health affects of drinking that much soda.

If I do have something caffeinated, it will be something like a Monster, NOS, BOOKOO. These three drinks have some of the highest amounts of caffeine in them and shouldn’t be drunk that much.
 
MY DEAR WORMWOOD,
The contemptuous way in which you spoke of gluttony as a means of catching
souls, in your last letter, only shows your ignorance. One of the great,
achievements of the last hundred years has been to deaden the human conscience
on that subject, so that by now you will hardly find a sermon preached or a
conscience troubled about it in the whole length and breadth of Europe. This has
largely been effected by concentrating all our efforts on gluttony of Delicacy,
not gluttony of Excess. Your patient’s mother, as I learn from the dossier and
you might have learned from Glubose, is a good example. She would be
astonished—one day, I hope, will be—to learn that her whole life is enslaved to
this kind of sensuality, which is quite concealed from her by the fact that the
quantities involved are small. But what do quantities matter, provided we can
use a human belly and palate to produce querulousness, impatience,
uncharitableness, and self-concern? Glubose has this old woman well in hand. She
is a positive terror to hostesses and servants. She is always turning from what
has been offered her to say with a demure little sign and a smile “Oh please,
please…all I want is a cup of tea, weak but not too weak, and the teeniest
weeniest bit of really crisp toast”. You see? Because what she wants is smaller
and less costly than what has been set before her, she never recognises as
gluttony her determination to get what she wants, however troublesome it may be
to others. At the very moment of indulging her appetite she believes that she is
practising temperance. In a crowded restaurant she gives a little scream at the
plate which some overworked waitress has set before her and says, “Oh, that’s
far, far too much! Take it away and bring me about a quarter of it”. If
challenged, she would say she was doing this to avoid waste; in reality she does
it because the particular shade of delicacy to which we have enslaved her is
offended by the sight of more food than she happens to want.
The real value of the quiet, unobtrusive work which Glubose has been doing for
years on this old woman can be gauged by the way in which her belly now
dominates her whole life. The woman is in what may be called the “All-I-want”
state of mind. All she wants is a cup of tea properly made, or an egg properly
boiled, or a slice of bread properly toasted. But she never finds any servant or
any friend who can do these simple things “properly”—because her “properly”
conceals an insatiable demand for the exact, and almost impossible, palatal
pleasures which she imagines she remembers from the past; a past described by
her as “the days when you could get good servants” but known to us as the days
when her senses were more easily pleased and she had pleasures of other kinds
which made her less dependent on those of the table. Meanwhile, the daily
disappointment produces daily ill temper: cooks give notice and friendships are
cooled. If ever the Enemy introduces into her mind a faint suspicion that she is
too interested in food, Glubose counters it by suggesting to her that she
doesn’t mind what she eats herself but “does like to have things nice for her
boy”. In fact, of course, her greed has been one of the chief sources of his
domestic discomfort for many years.
Now your patient is his mother’s son. While working your hardest, quite rightly,
on other fronts, you must not neglect a little quiet infiltration in respect of
gluttony. Being a male, he is not so likely to be caught by the “All I want”
camouflage. Males are best turned into gluttons with the help of their vanity.
They ought to be made to think themselves very knowing about food, to pique
themselves on
having found the only restaurant in the town where steaks are really “properly”
cooked. What begins as vanity can then be gradually turned into habit. But,
however you approach it, the great thing is to bring him into the state in which
the denial of any one indulgence—it matters not which, champagne or tea, sole
colbert or cigarettes—“puts him out”, for then his charity, justice, and
obedience are all at your mercy.
Mere excess in food is much less valuable than delicacy. Its chief use is as a
kind of artillery preparation for attacks on chastity. On that, as on every
other subject, keep your man in a condition of false spirituality. Never let him
notice the medical aspect. Keep him wondering what pride or lack of faith has
delivered him into your hands when a simple enquiry into what he has been eating
or drinking for the last twenty-four hours would show him whence your ammunition
comes and thus enable him by a very little abstinence to imperil your lines of
communication. If he must think of the medical side of chastity, feed him the
grand lie which we have made the English humans believe, that physical exercise
in excess and consequent fatigue are specially favourable to this virtue. How
they can believe this, in face of the notorious lustfulness of sailors and
soldiers, may well be asked. But we used the schoolmasters to put the story
about—men who were really interested in chastity as an excuse for games and
therefore recommended games as an aid to chastity. But this whole business is
too large to deal with at the tail-end of a letter,
Your affectionate uncle
SCREWTA
 
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