God just has the biggest stick

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How do you answer the objection that, if there is a God who makes objective morality, He is just making everyone do what HE thinks is right?
 
If there is a God, then He is all-knowing and would know what is right. 🤷

Since He made man in His own image, then man should strive to be holy like Him.
 
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How do you answer the objection that, if there is a God who makes objective morality, He is just making everyone do what HE thinks is right?
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I would say, yes, that’s why I try to obey Him. If He says He loves us, desires the best for us, and is offering us eternal life, which is everlasting peace and joy, I choose to believe Him.

After all, I’m not the reason I exist in the first place. Without God, none of us would be here. We didn’t create the rules, the science, and even the morals. God calls the shots.

And if I willingly choose to disobey the truth, them I’m taking a big risk that could result in everlasting peril.

That said, I have found my peace and joy in following His ways. It’s not always easy, but the journey has been great thus far. I can say I have found fulfillment in following God’s ways.

(Or something like that 😉 )
 
But maybe that’s just God’s way of veiwing things. Since he created us, maybe our morality is fine as well.

Playing the Devil’s advocate here…
 
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But maybe that’s just God’s way of veiwing things. Since he created us, maybe our morality is fine as well.

Playing the Devil’s advocate here…
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Yes, God gave us the free will to believe what we want concerning a moral law. We are free to reject His viewpoint if we please. But after we die, He will be the final Judge, and His view on things, not ours, will determine our eternal destination.
 
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How do you answer the objection that, if there is a God who makes objective morality
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Look to Natural Law. Morality is self evident. Righteousness as taught by St Paul is the foundation of the universe.
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He is just making everyone do what HE thinks is right?
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St Paul says work out your salvation in fear and trembling. Fear that you may miss the mark (biblical definition of sin) and go the way of perdition.

Do not attribute antropomorphism to God. God does not THINK, God is Being. A being that is the essence of love, incomparable love for all of creation. That includes man.

Such an argument attribues Solipsism to God. God is not a solipsism. God is Love.
 
Peter Kreeft puts it this way: If a being greater than you infinitly in every possible way, and only trying to help you, what right have we to question?

None, of course.
 
narrowpath said:
How do you answer the objection that, if there is a God who makes objective morality, He is just making everyone do what HE thinks is right?
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sure,

if He is making objective morality than what He thinks is right is right by definition.

but the question really asks about the basis for objective morality. i am no expert in this field. but it would be well to remember the question often exposes the true motivations of the person asking the question

you may ask the person who asked you this as to what they believe?

moral relativism has a horrible history,

secular and morally relativistic societies have this great history of pogroms, ethnic cleansing, and mass murder for as little motivation as collectivization

someone may be angry that they do not feel free to engage in something like sexual conduct in a guilt free manner, they usually dont really have a problem with objective morality, they just want independence from living by any morality that is not their own. much like a child is restrained from bad behavior in its own defense, they throw a fit when discouraged from their favorite illicit behavior.
 
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How do you answer the objection that, if there is a God who makes objective morality, He is just making everyone do what HE thinks is right?
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This is what our faith’s all about. Life’s a journey. We start out already half-turned away from God (that’s the meaning of OS/the fall) and then we experience a world where mankind’s will reigns supreme and we can decide for ourselves, with the revelation our faith provides, whether our way/mans’ way is better-or if Gods’ way was better after all.
 
Looks to me like God is Love.

God is Love with a Big Stick.

marietta
 
The Universe is older than St. Paul.

What was the foundation of the Universe before he came along? And would any other foundation be utterly without merit? Why?

marietta
 
This old Chestnut eh?

Plato brought up this dilemma in this dialogue, the Euthyphro.

classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html
Euth. Yes, I should say that what all the gods love is pious and holy, and the opposite which they all hate, impious.
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Soc. Ought we to enquire into the truth of this, Euthyphro, or simply to accept the mere statement on our own authority and that of others? What do you say?
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Euth. We should enquire; and I believe that the statement will stand the test of enquiry.
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Soc. We shall know better, my good friend, in a little while. The point which I should first wish to understand is** whether the pious or holy is beloved by the gods because it is holy, or holy because it is beloved of the gods.**
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IE: Is it Good because the Gods Love it, or do the Gods love it because it is Good (implying a higher standard than that of the divine).
 
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