God Omnipotence and Creation

[Jonesboy]

God and Humans create two types of objects.

Humans create objects such as TV’s, apple pies, planets, and what-not. These objects don’t exist for other animals or for God. God did not create the universe. The universe and creation are our own, human constructions.

God creates one type of object, and that is the object that is outlined by identity and experience. His omnipotence and omniscience extends to that only.

 

[Heuchler]

God and Humans create two types of objects.

Humans create objects such as TV’s, apple pies, planets, and what-not. These objects don’t exist for other animals or for God. God did not create the universe. The universe and creation are our own, human constructions.

God creates one type of object, and that is the object that is outlined by identity and experience. His omnipotence and omniscience extends to that only.

Are you saying that God didnt create the universe?

You also say that his omnipotence and omniscience extend only to identity and experience. Yet, the meaning of omnipotent is all-powerful and omniscience means all-knowing. If God didnt have power over the whole of everything he wouldn’t be omnipotent.

However, i don’t really understand your post, so i hope I haven’t misinterpreted the whole thing.

 

[DianaCC]

The universe and creation are our own, human constructions.

If that’s so, then how did I get here?

 

[ivebeenshown]

If God didnt have power over the whole of everything he wouldn’t be omnipotent.

Yes, and of course let us not forget that just because God HAS the power over everything doesn’t mean he USES it… Calvinists!

 

[Shike]

God and Humans create two types of objects.

Humans create objects such as TV’s, apple pies, planets, and what-not. These objects don’t exist for other animals or for God. God did not create the universe. The universe and creation are our own, human constructions.

God creates one type of object, and that is the object that is outlined by identity and experience. His omnipotence and omniscience extends to that only.

Is there a question here? Or is this a post misplaced?

 

[Jonesboy]

Are you saying that God didnt create the universe?

You also say that his omnipotence and omniscience extend only to identity and experience. Yet, the meaning of omnipotent is all-powerful and omniscience means all-knowing. If God didnt have power over the whole of everything he wouldn’t be omnipotent.

However, i don’t really understand your post, so i hope I haven’t misinterpreted the whole thing.

What I wrote looks as though it is against Catholicism, if not downright irreligious. It isn’t, and those weren’t my intentions.

I indicated that objects such as TV’s, apple-pies, and even the universe, are pictures that Man has painted. Omnipotence can have no significant domain of operation among them.

On the other hand, the objects that God draws are real. These objects are identified physically by the breath of God as human identity. Omnipotence, therefore, has its significant domain of operation among humans, and indirectly, though not significantly, on the pictures that humans paint for themselves.

 

[Jonesboy]

Is there a question here? Or is this a post misplaced?

Why are you waiting for a question when you can read one into what I wrote? That’s one general way of dealing with a proposal, statement, or hypothesis.

As an aside, philosophers should, can, and do, argue for the opposition. It stretches the philosophical muscles. If I argue for the opposition I rarely say so, until someone points out a flaw in my devil’s advocacy.

 

[Jonesboy]

If that’s so, then how did I get here?

The objects we paint onto the face of the void, on to the Word, are our own creations, not God’s. So I would answer your question by saying that our idea of what is “here”, and ideas like a Big Bang, are our own musings, and are not projected into the real world of objects that are God’s.

 

[Heuchler]

I indicated that objects such as TV’s, apple-pies, and even the universe, are pictures that Man has painted. Omnipotence can have no significant domain of operation among them.

I believe God proved this wrong all those times he performed miracles with human things. He multiplied bread which was made by man. In the old testament Elijah caused the contents of an oil jar last for about a year. He doesn’t seem to have any problem performing miracles with what you call our creations. Our infinite God is not held back against his finite creations.

 

[Shike]

Why are you waiting for a question when you can read one into what I wrote? That’s one general way of dealing with a proposal, statement, or hypothesis.

As an aside, philosophers should, can, and do, argue for the opposition. It stretches the philosophical muscles. If I argue for the opposition I rarely say so, until someone points out a flaw in my devil’s advocacy.

Okay, well sometime it’s helpful to state your purpose… otherwise someone could answer you by talking about something off-topic.

Very well.

Ciao,
Michael