God's Love is "Ridiculous"

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Salaam;
Saying that Allah (SWT) is incapable of loving or that Allah’s Love is ridiculous is not correct.
Allah (SWT) loves and does not love. When it is said Allah (SWT) does not love, it does not mean He hates, no, but it means that the one He does not love, does not receive what the one He loves does.

[Allah’s Love and Aid for his True Devotee]
“Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him”

"All Moslims are agreed that the love of God is a duty. God says concerning the believers, “He loves them and they love Him,” and the Prophet said, “Till a man loves God and His Prophet more than anything else he has not the right faith.”

Al-Ghazali in his Alchemy of Happiness shows what are the true signs of the love of God:

"Many claim to love God, but each should examine himself as to the genuineness of the love which he professes. The first test is this: he should not dislike the thought of death, for no friend shrinks from going to see a friend. The Prophet said, “Whoever wishes to see God, God wishes to see him.” It is true a sincere lover of God may shrink from the thought of death coming before he has finished his preparation for the next world but if he is sincere, he will be diligent in making such preparation.

The second test of sincerity is that a man should be willing to sacrifice his will to God’s, should cleave to what brings him nearer to God, and should shun what places him at a distance from God. The fact of a man’s sinning is no proof that he does not love God at all, but it proves that he does not love Him with his whole heart. The saint Fudhail said to a certain man, “If anyone asks you whether you love God, keep silent; for if you say, ‘I do not love Him,’ you are an infidel; and if you say, ‘I do,’ your deeds contradict you.”

The third test is that the remembrance of God should always remain fresh in a man’s heart without effort, for what a man loves he constantly remembers, and if his love is perfect he never forgets it. It is possible, however, that, while the love of God does not take the first place in a man’s heart, the love of the love of God may, for love is one thing and the love of love another.

The fourth test is that he will love the Koran, which is the Word of God, and Muhammad, who is the Prophet of God; if his love is really strong, be will love all men, for all are God’s servants, nay, his loves will embrace the whole creation, for he who loves anyone loves the works he composes and his handwriting" More reading.

Salaam.
Joseph.
 
Salaam;
Saying that Allah (SWT) is incapable of loving or that Allah’s Love is ridiculous is not correct.
Allah (SWT) loves and does not love. When it is said Allah (SWT) does not love, it does not mean He hates, no, but it means that the one He does not love, does not receive what the one He loves does.

[Allah’s Love and Aid for his True Devotee]
“Whosoever shows enmity to someone devoted to Me, I shall be at war with him. My servant draws not near to Me with anything more loved by Me than the religious duties I have enjoined upon him, and My servant continues to draw near to Me with supererogatory works so that I shall love him. When I love him I am his hearing with which he hears, his seeing with which he sees, his hand with which he strikes and his foot with which he walks. Were he to ask [something] of Me, I would surely give it to him, and were he to ask Me for refuge, I would surely grant him it. I do not hesitate about anything as much as I hesitate about [seizing] the soul of My faithful servant: he hates death and I hate hurting him”

"All Moslims are agreed that the love of God is a duty. God says concerning the believers, “He loves them and they love Him,” and the Prophet said, “Till a man loves God and His Prophet more than anything else he has not the right faith.”
Making Muhammad God’s equal is idolatry!
Al-Ghazali in his Alchemy of Happiness shows what are the true signs of the love of God:

"Many claim to love God, but each should examine himself as to the genuineness of the love which he professes. The first test is this: he should not dislike the thought of death, for no friend shrinks from going to see a friend. The Prophet said, “Whoever wishes to see God, God wishes to see him.” It is true a sincere lover of God may shrink from the thought of death coming before he has finished his preparation for the next world but if he is sincere, he will be diligent in making such preparation.

The second test of sincerity is that a man should be willing to sacrifice his will to God’s, should cleave to what brings him nearer to God, and should shun what places him at a distance from God. The fact of a man’s sinning is no proof that he does not love God at all, but it proves that he does not love Him with his whole heart. The saint Fudhail said to a certain man, “If anyone asks you whether you love God, keep silent; for if you say, ‘I do not love Him,’ you are an infidel; and if you say, ‘I do,’ your deeds contradict you.”

The third test is that the remembrance of God should always remain fresh in a man’s heart without effort, for what a man loves he constantly remembers, and if his love is perfect he never forgets it. It is possible, however, that, while the love of God does not take the first place in a man’s heart, the love of the love of God may, for love is one thing and the love of love another.

The fourth test is that he will love the Koran, which is the Word of God, and Muhammad, who is the Prophet of God; if his love is really strong, be will love all men, for all are God’s servants, nay, his loves will embrace the whole creation, for he who loves anyone loves the works he composes and his handwriting" More reading.

Salaam.
Joseph.
How can love be associated with Muhammad, since he claimed to be victorious by “terror”??
 
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Booklover:
Making Muhammad God’s equal is idolatry!
Then you would already have read about it from your sacred source on Islam and Muhammad!
How can love be associated with Muhammad, since he claimed to be victorious by “terror”??
Don’t worry too much about Muhammad. You will gain absolutely nothing but stress listening to these people, you who are commanded to love your enemy and turn the other cheek.

Test yourself against what I quoted. You only need to replace the Qur’an by the Bible and Muhammad by Jesus and see where you are as regard to “love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul".
I did the test and man! I am awful:(

Salaam.
Joseph.
 
Then you would already have read about it from your sacred source on Islam and Muhammad!

Don’t worry too much about Muhammad. You will gain absolutely nothing but stress listening to these people, you who are commanded to love your enemy and turn the other cheek.
Test yourself against what I quoted. You only need to replace the Qur’an by the Bible and Muhammad by Jesus and see where you are as regard to “love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul".
I did the test and man! I am awful:(

Salaam.
Joseph.

Really, Joseph, can’t you do better than that!:rolleyes:
 
Then you would already have read about it from your sacred source on Islam and Muhammad!

Don’t worry too much about Muhammad. You will gain absolutely nothing but stress listening to these people, you who are commanded to love your enemy and turn the other cheek.
Using quotes from the Bible to stop criticism of Islam? :rolleyes:
Test yourself against what I quoted. You only need to replace the Qur’an by the Bible and Muhammad by Jesus and see where you are as regard to “love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul".
I did the test and man! I am awful:(

Salaam.
Joseph.
Well, it’s patently obvious that you can’t tell the difference! In equating God and Muhammad aren’t you also ascribing partners to Allah, oh well, they’re the same anyway. Muhammad = Allah!
 
Then you would already have read about it from your sacred source on Islam and Muhammad!

Don’t worry too much about Muhammad. You will gain absolutely nothing but stress listening to these people, you who are commanded to love your enemy and turn the other cheek.

Test yourself against what I quoted. You only need to replace the Qur’an by the Bible and Muhammad by Jesus and see where you are as regard to “love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul".
I did the test and man! I am awful:(

Salaam.
Joseph.
The complete quote is : You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and first commandment. The second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments. Mt.22, 37-40

This is very different from saying, Till a man loves God and His Prophet more than anything else he has not the right faith."
which is what you quoted. Since Muhammad is a man and Muslims declare he is not divine, he should not be equated with God!

Can you not see the difference?

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