Going to my first Mass tomorrow, question on the Eucharist. Need answers NOW

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Dear Oumashta,
I know that you have already left for Mass this morning but something has been bothering me. I’m not sure why you have written that today might be your only chance to receive the Holy Eucharist until you are an adult. I know that there has been persecution of Catholics in China and I was wondering if there has been some persecution of the faith where you live. We in the United States have not suffered this kind of persecution. The Church does grant permission in extreme cases for non-Catholics to receive Communion as long as they share our belief that the Eucharist is really Jesus (body, blood, soul and divinity) See Code of Cannon Law 844 #4
vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P2T.HTM Talk to the priest at the church and follow his directions. I thank God for leading you to the Catholic Church and may God continue to bless you.
This was the best day of my life! I was so happy! Everyone was very friendly:) But there were only about 18 people there. 4 nuns, 2 Priests, 1 deacon, 11 people.
I felt very confortable there. The church was called “Mother of Christ church”.
I told the Priest about my situation, he would have allowed me receive Communion but, I did not have a chance to speak with him before Mass.

It was quite interesting:) Nothing like what I have been told by my anti-catholic relatives. I knew a lot of the prayers but I didn’t know the chinese version of the prayers so I tried my best to follow along:) My little brother went to Mass with me too.

It is amazing how Jesus has moved. My mother’s friend (name is Josephine, the one who took me, my little brother, and her adopted daughter to Mass) has done orphanage work and helped many disabled children. She recently adopted a little girl from China (whose name is Jacqueline) the little girl was abandoned by her parents when she was a baby, she is currently 8 now. The problem was that she (Josephine) had no one to watch the little girl if she had to go to china for any business. She has been secretly Catholic for quite some time now. It turns out a lot of the orphanages and ministries she worked with were Catholic, she converted but never told any of her protestant relatives or friends.

My mother helps people by taking in single moms, caring for children, and helping ex-addicts regain their lives (but my mother is a zealous protestant) Recently another of my mother’s friends, who knew Josephine, told her (Josephine) that my mother watches children and can help her. She called my mom and told her abut her situation and my mother agreed to help. She came over a few times and every now and again mentioned about going to a Catholic church. My mother currently is helping watch Jacqueline.

At the same time I tried to find a way to convert and go to a Catholic church. (long story)

I asked Josephine if I could go to Mass with her, she told me to ask my mother.
I asked a few times but my mother wouldn’t allow it until yesterday… deep breath

The largest persecution in hongkong is not by the government or anything, it is mainly by anti catholic protestants. The reason I said that this would possibly be my only chance to receive the Eucharist is because there has been strong opposition against me attending a Catholic church. And attempts to try to stop me. This is why Josephine, my mother’s friend, kept her conversion a secret from protestant relatives or friends.

The Priest recommended I wait until I am an adult before converting to keep peace at the moment. Some of the nuns and a few people told the Priest they felt uncomfortable with Josephine bringing me and my little brother there because we am still technically protestant, they were afraid that we might do something :confused: They were friendly but worried:P But everything is ok now.

God bless:)
 
You can make a spiritual communion, which, simply explained, is saying a prayer expressing your belief in Jesus Christ in the Eucharist.

Here’s the prayer that I learned as a Protestant before becoming Catholic:

“I believe that You, O Jesus, are in the Most Holy Sacrament. Come into my heart. I embrace You. Oh, never leave me! May the burning and most sweet power of Your love, O, Lord Jesus Christ, I beseech You, absorb my mind that I might die through love of Your love, Who were graciously pleased to die through love of my love.”

It’s a prayer of St. Francis.

Catholics who have not been to Confession and been absolved of mortal sins may also make a spiritual communion.

Or if you are unable to attend a Mass due to illness, you can make a spiritual communion.
Are you sure(about the bold) ? I was taught that there is no profit in making a spiritual communion if you are not in a state of grace. When you are in mortal sin the only grace you can receive is the call to repentance.
 
Are you sure(about the bold) ? I was taught that there is no profit in making a spiritual communion if you are not in a state of grace. When you are in mortal sin the only grace you can receive is the call to repentance.
But, even that grace of repentance is grace. God will use a hole into our souls the size of a pinhole to reach our hearts. He will use whatever opening he needs to get through to our souls. Even someone in mortal sin who realizes that what he did was wrong can get the grace to turn to the Lord. So, there is some profit here for a spiritual communion.
 
Are you sure(about the bold) ? I was taught that there is no profit in making a spiritual communion if you are not in a state of grace. When you are in mortal sin the only grace you can receive is the call to repentance.
I’m not sure about this and if someone has official Church teachings I would love to hear if while in sin will God still grant us graces.

My personal experience is that yes God does grant us graces. I’m not sure about mortal and venial sins here, but I think God does grant us graces when we are in sin, else one sin will drop us to our own Hell on earth. Sometimes these graces from God actually wakes me up to realize “hey, this is not right” and sometimes it reminds me of God’s infinite love.
 
This was the best day of my life! I was so happy! Everyone was very friendly:) But there were only about 18 people there. 4 nuns, 2 Priests, 1 deacon, 11 people.
I felt very confortable there. The church was called “Mother of Christ church”.
I told the Priest about my situation, he would have allowed me receive Communion but, I did not have a chance to speak with him before Mass.

It was quite interesting:) Nothing like what I have been told by my anti-catholic relatives. I knew a lot of the prayers but I didn’t know the chinese version of the prayers so I tried my best to follow along:) My little brother went to Mass with me too.

It is amazing how Jesus has moved. My mother’s friend (name is Josephine, the one who took me, my little brother, and her adopted daughter to Mass) has done orphanage work and helped many disabled children. She recently adopted a little girl from China (whose name is Jacqueline) the little girl was abandoned by her parents when she was a baby, she is currently 8 now. The problem was that she (Josephine) had no one to watch the little girl if she had to go to china for any business. She has been secretly Catholic for quite some time now. It turns out a lot of the orphanages and ministries she worked with were Catholic, she converted but never told any of her protestant relatives or friends.

My mother helps people by taking in single moms, caring for children, and helping ex-addicts regain their lives (but my mother is a zealous protestant) Recently another of my mother’s friends, who knew Josephine, told her (Josephine) that my mother watches children and can help her. She called my mom and told her abut her situation and my mother agreed to help. She came over a few times and every now and again mentioned about going to a Catholic church. My mother currently is helping watch Jacqueline.

At the same time I tried to find a way to convert and go to a Catholic church. (long story)

I asked Josephine if I could go to Mass with her, she told me to ask my mother.
I asked a few times but my mother wouldn’t allow it until yesterday… deep breath

The largest persecution in hongkong is not by the government or anything, it is mainly by anti catholic protestants. The reason I said that this would possibly be my only chance to receive the Eucharist is because there has been strong opposition against me attending a Catholic church. And attempts to try to stop me. This is why Josephine, my mother’s friend, kept her conversion a secret from protestant relatives or friends.

The Priest recommended I wait until I am an adult before converting to keep peace at the moment. Some of the nuns and a few people told the Priest they felt uncomfortable with Josephine bringing me and my little brother there because we am still technically protestant, they were afraid that we might do something :confused: They were friendly but worried:P But everything is ok now.

God bless:)
Your story is a wonderful story. There must be a lot of animosity from protestants again Catholics in your area for they were afraid you may do something like profane the Eucharist. I hope that your witness will provide an opening in your mom’s understanding of our Savior and allow the Holy Spirit to come in and convert her too.
 
This was the best day of my life! I was so happy! Everyone was very friendly:) But there were only about 18 people there. 4 nuns, 2 Priests, 1 deacon, 11 people.
I felt very confortable there. The church was called “Mother of Christ church”.
I told the Priest about my situation, he would have allowed me receive Communion but, I did not have a chance to speak with him before Mass.

It was quite interesting:) Nothing like what I have been told by my anti-catholic relatives. I knew a lot of the prayers but I didn’t know the chinese version of the prayers so I tried my best to follow along:) My little brother went to Mass with me too.

It is amazing how Jesus has moved. My mother’s friend (name is Josephine, the one who took me, my little brother, and her adopted daughter to Mass) has done orphanage work and helped many disabled children. She recently adopted a little girl from China (whose name is Jacqueline) the little girl was abandoned by her parents when she was a baby, she is currently 8 now. The problem was that she (Josephine) had no one to watch the little girl if she had to go to china for any business. She has been secretly Catholic for quite some time now. It turns out a lot of the orphanages and ministries she worked with were Catholic, she converted but never told any of her protestant relatives or friends.

My mother helps people by taking in single moms, caring for children, and helping ex-addicts regain their lives (but my mother is a zealous protestant) Recently another of my mother’s friends, who knew Josephine, told her (Josephine) that my mother watches children and can help her. She called my mom and told her abut her situation and my mother agreed to help. She came over a few times and every now and again mentioned about going to a Catholic church. My mother currently is helping watch Jacqueline.

At the same time I tried to find a way to convert and go to a Catholic church. (long story)

I asked Josephine if I could go to Mass with her, she told me to ask my mother.
I asked a few times but my mother wouldn’t allow it until yesterday… deep breath

The largest persecution in hongkong is not by the government or anything, it is mainly by anti catholic protestants. The reason I said that this would possibly be my only chance to receive the Eucharist is because there has been strong opposition against me attending a Catholic church. And attempts to try to stop me. This is why Josephine, my mother’s friend, kept her conversion a secret from protestant relatives or friends.

The Priest recommended I wait until I am an adult before converting to keep peace at the moment. Some of the nuns and a few people told the Priest they felt uncomfortable with Josephine bringing me and my little brother there because we am still technically protestant, they were afraid that we might do something :confused: They were friendly but worried:P But everything is ok now.

God bless:)
What a wonderful story! You were wanting to convert to the Catholic Church and God heard your prayer and provided a way for you to go to Mass! Although you must still be patient. I will pray for your perseverence. I’m glad to hear that it went well at the Mass and that you felt comfortable there. Josephine sounds like a really good Catholic friend. Her insistence that you get permission from your mother before she would take you to Mass is a good sign. Your mother is a good Christian woman, too, who is doing the work of the Lord according to the knowledge that she has. And she does possess some of the truths of the Catholic Faith even though she may not know it:) Maybe some day God will bring her into the fullness of faith just as He is leading you. Your good example will be a witness to her. Keep praying that little prayer in your signature, “Jesus, I trust in You.”
 
Oh thank you:) Thank you all so much! And thank you for pointing out about what the Church said. I’ll stay in my pew then:) I’m so happy! I’ll be going in 20 minutes! Oh I can’t wait! I’ve been waiting for almost a year. A year of nothing but praying to Jesus and His mother for help. Thank you Jesus, thank you Mary for your intersession.
it’s always encouraging to me to see someone enthusiastic about the faith. God Bless you! 👍
 
Are you sure(about the bold) ? I was taught that there is no profit in making a spiritual communion if you are not in a state of grace. When you are in mortal sin the only grace you can receive is the call to repentance.
I was thinking of the Christian who does not have the opportunity to go to Reconciliation before Holy Mass.

E.g., on weekends at our parish, Confessions are heard on Saturdays from 9-10 A.M. and again from 3:15 -4:15 P.M. Vigil Masses are at 4:30 and 6:00 P.M.

Usually when I work weekends, I am off work by 3:30 and I can just make it to Reconciliation. But occasionally I will not be able to get off work in time, and if I have to attend the 4:30 Mass for some reason (e.g., family commitment that prevents me from attending the 6:00 P.M. Mass), I have to attend Mass without the opportunity to be absolved of mortal sin.

Of course I would not receive Holy Communion in such a state, and I would attempt to get to Confession as soon as possible (right after Mass if the priest has time). But during the Mass, I am most repentant, even if I am not in the State of Grace. So it seems to me that a spiritual communion is appropriate, as my intent is to confess my sins, be absolved, and perform my penance as soon as is humanly possible.

I hope this makes sense!

I agree that if someone is in a defiant state of mortal sin, not contrite and not ready to repent and turn away from the sin, it probably makes no sense to make a spiritual communion. But I’m guessing that a person like this will either skip Mass entirely or defiantly receive Holy Communion unworthily.
 
This was the best day of my life! I was so happy! Everyone was very friendly:) But there were only about 18 people there. 4 nuns, 2 Priests, 1 deacon, 11 people.
I felt very confortable there. The church was called “Mother of Christ church”.
I told the Priest about my situation, he would have allowed me receive Communion but, I did not have a chance to speak with him before Mass.

It was quite interesting:) Nothing like what I have been told by my anti-catholic relatives. I knew a lot of the prayers but I didn’t know the chinese version of the prayers so I tried my best to follow along:) My little brother went to Mass with me too.

It is amazing how Jesus has moved. My mother’s friend (name is Josephine, the one who took me, my little brother, and her adopted daughter to Mass) has done orphanage work and helped many disabled children. She recently adopted a little girl from China (whose name is Jacqueline) the little girl was abandoned by her parents when she was a baby, she is currently 8 now. The problem was that she (Josephine) had no one to watch the little girl if she had to go to china for any business. She has been secretly Catholic for quite some time now. It turns out a lot of the orphanages and ministries she worked with were Catholic, she converted but never told any of her protestant relatives or friends.

My mother helps people by taking in single moms, caring for children, and helping ex-addicts regain their lives (but my mother is a zealous protestant) Recently another of my mother’s friends, who knew Josephine, told her (Josephine) that my mother watches children and can help her. She called my mom and told her abut her situation and my mother agreed to help. She came over a few times and every now and again mentioned about going to a Catholic church. My mother currently is helping watch Jacqueline.

At the same time I tried to find a way to convert and go to a Catholic church. (long story)

I asked Josephine if I could go to Mass with her, she told me to ask my mother.
I asked a few times but my mother wouldn’t allow it until yesterday… deep breath

The largest persecution in hongkong is not by the government or anything, it is mainly by anti catholic protestants. The reason I said that this would possibly be my only chance to receive the Eucharist is because there has been strong opposition against me attending a Catholic church. And attempts to try to stop me. This is why Josephine, my mother’s friend, kept her conversion a secret from protestant relatives or friends.

The Priest recommended I wait until I am an adult before converting to keep peace at the moment. Some of the nuns and a few people told the Priest they felt uncomfortable with Josephine bringing me and my little brother there because we am still technically protestant, they were afraid that we might do something :confused: They were friendly but worried:P But everything is ok now.

God bless:)
JL: May God bless you Oumashta, I will pray a rosary for you. How did you become so interested and sure of the Catholic Church?
 
Ok I need to make this quick. I’m going to be going to my first Mass tomorrow. … My mom’s friend told me that since I was baptized and I am a practicing Christian she said I could receive the Eucharist. … But… Should I take it?
Hi Oumastha, I am so excited for you and for your faith in the Catholic Church! I would also like to say, thank you for trying to do the right thing and to be obedient to the teachings of the Church in whether you should receive the Eucharist yet, and what you should do when Holy Communion is being distributed! This is a wonderful desire on your part, and I am sure that God will honor and bless you for it.

I thought you might be interested in seeing the instructions that were approved by the US Bishops Conference. These are commonly printed in the missals that are used in Catholic churches in the US (the books that contain the readings and prayers, and guide lay people through the Mass). Here is a link. I am including the instructions below.
usccb.org/liturgy/q&a/mass/communion.shtml

As a convert, I really like the way that these guidelines reach out to and include all people, both non-Catholic Christians and also even non-Christians. Also as a convert, I have felt the special suffering and cross of attending Mass, believing in the Eucharist as the Body and Blood of Christ, and yet being unable to receive because I was not in full communion with the Church.

May God continue to bless you and guide you in your journey to the Church!
For Catholics
As Catholics, we fully participate in the celebration of the Eucharist when we receive Holy Communion. We are encouraged to receive Communion devoutly and frequently. In order to be properly disposed to receive Communion, participants should not be conscious of grave sin and normally should have fasted for one hour. A person who is conscious of grave sin is not to receive the Body and Blood of the Lord without prior sacramental confession except for a grave reason where there is no opportunity for confession. In this case, the person is to be mindful of the obligation to make an act of perfect contrition, including the intention of confessing as soon as possible (canon 916). A frequent reception of the Sacrament of Penance is encouraged for all.

For our fellow Christians
We welcome our fellow Christians to this celebration of the Eucharist as our brothers and sisters. We pray that our common baptism and the action of the Holy Spirit in this Eucharist will draw us closer to one another and begin to dispel the sad divisions which separate us. We pray that these will lessen and finally disappear, in keeping with Christ’s prayer for us “that they may all be one” (Jn 17:21).
Because Catholics believe that the celebration of the Eucharist is a sign of the reality of the oneness of faith, life, and worship, members of those churches with whom we are not yet fully united are ordinarily not admitted to Holy Communion. Eucharistic sharing in exceptional circumstances by other Christians requires permission according to the directives of the diocesan bishop and the provisions of canon law (canon 844 § 4). Members of the Orthodox Churches, the Assyrian Church of the East, and the Polish National Catholic Church are urged to respect the discipline of their own Churches. According to Roman Catholic discipline, the Code of Canon Law does not object to the reception of communion by Christians of these Churches (canon 844 § 3).

For those not receiving Holy Communion
All who are not receiving Holy Communion are encouraged to express in their hearts a prayerful desire for unity with the Lord Jesus and with one another.

For non-Christians
We also welcome to this celebration those who do not share our faith in Jesus Christ. While we cannot admit them to Holy Communion, we ask them to offer their prayers for the peace and the unity of the human family.
 
…Catholics who have not been to Confession and been absolved of mortal sins may also make a spiritual communion.
Are you sure(about the bold) ? I was taught that there is no profit in making a spiritual communion if you are not in a state of grace. When you are in mortal sin the only grace you can receive is the call to repentance.
I know this is off the original poster’s topic - but I would appreciate an informed explanation of this by a priest or a staff apologist.

Consider the case that a practicing Catholic is aware of a serious sin that they committed. They have repented and prayed an Act of Contribution, but do not have the opportunity to get to the sacrament of Confession prior to attending Mass again. At Mass they are aware that they cannot receive the Eucharist. However, I have always thought that in that situation it is completely appropriate for them to pray a prayer asking God for a spiritual communion. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance.
 
What a wonderful story! You were wanting to convert to the Catholic Church and God heard your prayer and provided a way for you to go to Mass! Although you must still be patient. I will pray for your perseverence. I’m glad to hear that it went well at the Mass and that you felt comfortable there. Josephine sounds like a really good Catholic friend. Her insistence that you get permission from your mother before she would take you to Mass is a good sign. Your mother is a good Christian woman, too, who is doing the work of the Lord according to the knowledge that she has. And she does possess some of the truths of the Catholic Faith even though she may not know it:) Maybe some day God will bring her into the fullness of faith just as He is leading you. Your good example will be a witness to her. Keep praying that little prayer in your signature, “Jesus, I trust in You.”
My mother used to be anglican so she holds to the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Thank you for your encouragement:) Please pray for me, I will also pray for you if you need me to. God bless:)
 
I know this is off the original poster’s topic - but I would appreciate an informed explanation of this by a priest or a staff apologist.

Consider the case that a practicing Catholic is aware of a serious sin that they committed. They have repented and prayed an Act of Contribution, but do not have the opportunity to get to the sacrament of Confession prior to attending Mass again. At Mass they are aware that they cannot receive the Eucharist. However, I have always thought that in that situation it is completely appropriate for them to pray a prayer asking God for a spiritual communion. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance.
I agree with you.🙂
 
I know this is off the original poster’s topic - but I would appreciate an informed explanation of this by a priest or a staff apologist.

Consider the case that a practicing Catholic is aware of a serious sin that they committed. They have repented and prayed an Act of Contribution, but do not have the opportunity to get to the sacrament of Confession prior to attending Mass again. At Mass they are aware that they cannot receive the Eucharist. However, I have always thought that in that situation it is completely appropriate for them to pray a prayer asking God for a spiritual communion. Is that correct?

Thanks in advance.
Having repented and offered an Act of Contrition, they can make a Spiritual Communion, and MIGHT receive Sanctifying Grace, or possibly Actual Grace, but on does NOT receive Sacramental Grace from a Spiritual Communion.
 
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