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Is self harm a mortal sin? Is thoughts of suicide a mortal sin even if not carried out? Are they sins if clinically depressed?
 
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Linnyo:
Is self harm a mortal sin? Is thoughts of suicide a mortal sin even if not carried out? Are they sins if clinically depressed?
I would look to the Catechism for an answer here. Sections 2280-2283 seem to be the most relevant, as well as 2090-2092. In short they are teaching that suicide is a sin against both just self-love as well as against the theological virtue of Hope.

Further, under sections 1857 and 1862, I think that thoughts of suicide would be, at worse, venial given clinical depression. Clinical depression takes away some ability to make choices, therefore also taking away the complete consent to make the sin mortal.

Finally, I think that, if the thoughts are purely academic, they may not even be venial sins. I think (and this is my own thought, not the Official Church Teaching) that using the mental faculties that God gave us is not necessarily sinful, even when the thoughts turn to ideas which, if put into action, *would *be sinful.

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Alberich
 
Even Jesus was tempted to do the wrong thing. The difference between sin and not sin is what you do with the temptation. If you have thoughts of suicide but don’t carry it out it means that you refused the temptation to sin (so no, thinking about suicide is not a mortal sin).

Self harm is a sin since we are supposed to take care of our bodies, but I’m not sure if it is venial or potentially mortal. Most people who self harm aren’t “all there” anyway so it would likely not meet all the conditions for mortal sin in many cases even if it was grave enough (which I’m not sure of).
 
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