Group Calls Illinois Governor’s Pharmacist Contraceptive Measure An ‘irresponsible Di
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manualman
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More like a perfect example of the total moral bankruptcy the Democratic party has fallen into.
Just a few years ago, I could vote for the Democratic Gov candidate for Illinois and hold my head high (Glen Poshard was pretty pro-life for a Dem).
Today, in Illinois our illustrious Gov has implemented a practical ban on observant catholics working as pharmacists.
Just a few years ago, I could vote for the Democratic Gov candidate for Illinois and hold my head high (Glen Poshard was pretty pro-life for a Dem).
Today, in Illinois our illustrious Gov has implemented a practical ban on observant catholics working as pharmacists.
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Crow
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This is wrong on so many levels!
What don’t they just outlaw Catholicism and get over with all formalities quickly?
What don’t they just outlaw Catholicism and get over with all formalities quickly?
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WanderAimlessly
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Because they know they cannot do this. Besides if we were outlaws, does that mean laws to not apply?This is wrong on so many levels!
What don’t they just outlaw Catholicism and get over with all formalities quickly?
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a_cermak
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Oh for heaven’s sake I wish when people would criticize the IL law, they would at least read the darned thing and object to the actual law and not what they think the law says!
The law states that if a pharmacy sells contraception, then they must provide it just as they would any other drug without delay, lecture, question…New requirements are being set up for signage because some stores seem to be trying to skirt the law. Now, it is perfectly possible and legal for a pharmacy to not sell contraception. If that is the case, then the law does not apply to that pharmacy. So Catholics are not being squeezed out of the pharmacy trade. They can go to work for a pharmacy that doesn’t sell the stuff or they can start their own pharmacy.
A pharmacy could even choose to hire 2 pharmacists, so that if one is an objector, the other one could handle the contraception scripts. Walgreens did not want to pay for 2 pharmacists so asked their pharmacists to agree to fill these scripts. As a result at least 1 pharmacist was fired for not agreeing. But most people would agree that Walgreens has the right to set their own terms and conditions.
The law states that if a pharmacy sells contraception, then they must provide it just as they would any other drug without delay, lecture, question…New requirements are being set up for signage because some stores seem to be trying to skirt the law. Now, it is perfectly possible and legal for a pharmacy to not sell contraception. If that is the case, then the law does not apply to that pharmacy. So Catholics are not being squeezed out of the pharmacy trade. They can go to work for a pharmacy that doesn’t sell the stuff or they can start their own pharmacy.
A pharmacy could even choose to hire 2 pharmacists, so that if one is an objector, the other one could handle the contraception scripts. Walgreens did not want to pay for 2 pharmacists so asked their pharmacists to agree to fill these scripts. As a result at least 1 pharmacist was fired for not agreeing. But most people would agree that Walgreens has the right to set their own terms and conditions.
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Scott_Waddell
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Good point. To that end, would it be possible for you to link to the law’s wording and perhaps even quote the pertinent passage?
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bones_IV
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The government could do it if they really, really wanted. But there would so much anger and riots going on, that it would backfire. And that would make the Vatican VERY UNHAPPY! Trust me. We get the impression that we becoming more like communistic China.Because they know they cannot do this. Besides if we were outlaws, does that mean laws to not apply?
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a_cermak
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Scott Waddell:
It’s an ammendment to IL ADM 1330 the Pharmacy Practice Act of 1987. Looks like they also made some cosmetic changes to the 1987 law along the way, but the paydirt is in ammendment j to section 1330.91:
“j. Duty of Division I Pharmacy to Dispense Contraceptives 1) Upon receipt of a valid, lawful prescription for a contraceptive, a pharmacy must dispense the contraceptive, or a suitable alternative permitted by the prescriber, to the patient or the patient’s agent without delay, consistent with the normal timeframe for filling any other prescription. If the contraceptive, or a suitable alternative, is not in stock, the pharmacy must obtain the contraceptive under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for ordering contraceptive drugs not in stock, including the procedures of any entity that is affiliated with, owns, or franchises the pharmacy. However, if the patient prefers, the prescription must be transferred to a local pharmacy of the patient’s choice under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for transferring prescriptions for contraceptive drugs, including the procedures of any entity that is affiliated with, owns, or franchises the pharmacy. Under any circumstances an unfilled prescription for contraceptive drugs must be returned to the patient if the patient so directs. 2) For the purposes of this subsection (j), the term “contraceptive” shall refer to all FDA-approved drugs or devices that prevent pregnancy. 3) Nothing in this subsection (j) shall interfere with a pharmacist’s screening for potential drug therapy problems drug-disease contraindications, drug-drug interactions (including serious interactions with nonprescription or over-the-counter drugs), drug-food interactions, incorrect drug dosage or duration of drug treatment, drug-allergy interactions, or clinical abuse or misuse, pursuant to 225 ILCS 85/3(q). due to therapeutic duplication,”
The part that refers to if the pharmacy stocks contraceptions can be found in the part where it says: “the pharmacy must obtain the contraceptive under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for ordering contraceptive drugs not in stock” if it doesn’t sell birth control, it doesn’t have a standard policy. And that was argued about at the time in fact there might be another ammentment to clarify the responsibilities of non-contraception providing pharmacies.
OK, the law itself is in the 2005 Register at cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/index/register/register_volume29_issue37.pdf
It’s an ammendment to IL ADM 1330 the Pharmacy Practice Act of 1987. Looks like they also made some cosmetic changes to the 1987 law along the way, but the paydirt is in ammendment j to section 1330.91:
“j. Duty of Division I Pharmacy to Dispense Contraceptives 1) Upon receipt of a valid, lawful prescription for a contraceptive, a pharmacy must dispense the contraceptive, or a suitable alternative permitted by the prescriber, to the patient or the patient’s agent without delay, consistent with the normal timeframe for filling any other prescription. If the contraceptive, or a suitable alternative, is not in stock, the pharmacy must obtain the contraceptive under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for ordering contraceptive drugs not in stock, including the procedures of any entity that is affiliated with, owns, or franchises the pharmacy. However, if the patient prefers, the prescription must be transferred to a local pharmacy of the patient’s choice under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for transferring prescriptions for contraceptive drugs, including the procedures of any entity that is affiliated with, owns, or franchises the pharmacy. Under any circumstances an unfilled prescription for contraceptive drugs must be returned to the patient if the patient so directs. 2) For the purposes of this subsection (j), the term “contraceptive” shall refer to all FDA-approved drugs or devices that prevent pregnancy. 3) Nothing in this subsection (j) shall interfere with a pharmacist’s screening for potential drug therapy problems drug-disease contraindications, drug-drug interactions (including serious interactions with nonprescription or over-the-counter drugs), drug-food interactions, incorrect drug dosage or duration of drug treatment, drug-allergy interactions, or clinical abuse or misuse, pursuant to 225 ILCS 85/3(q). due to therapeutic duplication,”
The part that refers to if the pharmacy stocks contraceptions can be found in the part where it says: “the pharmacy must obtain the contraceptive under the pharmacy’s standard procedures for ordering contraceptive drugs not in stock” if it doesn’t sell birth control, it doesn’t have a standard policy. And that was argued about at the time in fact there might be another ammentment to clarify the responsibilities of non-contraception providing pharmacies.
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manualman
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It STILL amounts to an effective ban on catholic pharmacists.
Big comfort to know I can open my own store and try to compete with the Walmart down the road. Right.
Anybody been to a pharmacy with more than one ACTUAL pharmacist on duty? I didn’t think so. (The other guys are all just technicians)
So an obedient catholic pharmacist has four real choices:
Big comfort to know I can open my own store and try to compete with the Walmart down the road. Right.
Anybody been to a pharmacy with more than one ACTUAL pharmacist on duty? I didn’t think so. (The other guys are all just technicians)
So an obedient catholic pharmacist has four real choices:
- Violate his conscience and do what Gov Rod tells him to.
- Move to another state.
- Find a job at one of the ~12 independent pharmacies that Walmart hasn’t put out of business yet and just doesn’t carry contraceptives. This just defers the choice a few years at best.
- Bankrupt yourself by opening your own store and being creamed by Walmart.
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