Happy Solemnity of the Ascension of the Lord

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even though in the United States we will be celebrating it on Sunday.

but question should America go back to where they celebrate it on Thursday meaning it would be a holy day of obligation I think for all Catholics…
 
Hi,

I personally think it should go back. In fact I think that we should follow the Church calendar as most of the Church follows it. There’s a lot of Holy Days of Obligation that are not listed as such becuase the Conference of Bishops have foregone those Masses.

I think the reason things move to Sunday or are dropped as Holy Days of Obligation is because we as a country are a bit more lazy than our Non-American Catholic counterpart. No other countries have problems following the Church calendar, why do we as America think we can’t?

Hmmm… I had better stop before I get off topic.

Suffice it to day, I do celebrate the other Days that the Universal Church holds as Holy Days of Obligation as Holy Days of Obligation. Ascension Thursday is tricky, thankfully I do know a priest who will have Ascension Mass for me today, I am blessed.

God Bless.
 
catholictiger said:
even though in the United States we will be celebrating it on Sunday.

but question should America go back to where they celebrate it on Thursday meaning it would be a holy day of obligation I think for all Catholics…
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There are a number of dioceses in the US that still celebrate it today, mostly in the Northeast.
 
Immediatelly as it will be public Holiday. The resolution to give everyone certain number of vacation days useable as religious Holiday for their choice.

To keep religious Holidays in workdays erodes the sense of festivity. This is the reason why since 1911 the number of the the Holy Days of obligation shows a diminishing trend.

Here is the list of Holy days of obligation from the ore 1911 breviary rubrics

Dominicies omnes
Nativitas Domini
Circumcisio
Epiphania
Feria II et III Paschatis
Ascensio Domini
Feria II et III Pentecostes
Festum Ssmi Corporis Christi
Festum D. N. Jesu Christ! Regis
Inventio S. Grucis
Conceptio immaculata B. M. V.
Purificatio B. Mariae Virg.
Annuntiatio B. Mariae Virg.
Assumptio B. Marias Virg.
Nativitas B. Marias Virg.
Dedicatio S. Michaelis Archangeli
Nativitas S. Joannis Baptists
Festum S. Joseph, Sponsi B. Marias Virg., Gonf.
Solemnitas S. Joseph, Sponsi B. Mariae Virg., Gonf. et Ecclesiae universalis Patroni
Festum S. Andreae Ap.
Festum S. Thomas Ap.
Festum S. Joannis Ap. et Ev.
Festum S. Matthiae Ap.
Festum Ss. Philippi et Jacobi App.
Festum Ss. Petri et Paul! App.
Festum S. Jacobi Ap.
Festum S. Bartholomaei Ap.
Festum S. Matthaei Ap. et Ev.
Festum Ss. Simonis et Judae App.
Festum S. Stephani Protomartyris
Festum Ss. Innocentium Mm.
Festum S. Annae, Matris B. Mariae Virg.
Festum S. Laurentii Mart.
Festum S. Joachim, Patris B. Mariae Virg., Conf.
Festum Omnium Sanctorum
Festum Patronorum principalium Oppidi vel Giritatis, Dicecesis, Provincias et Nationis
 
laszlo said:
Immediatelly as it will be public Holiday. The resolution to give everyone certain number of vacation days useable as religious Holiday for their choice.

To keep religious Holidays in workdays erodes the sense of festivity. This is the reason why since 1911 the number of the the Holy Days of obligation shows a diminishing trend.

Here is the list of Holy days of obligation from the ore 1911 breviary rubrics

Dominicies omnes
Nativitas Domini
Circumcisio
Epiphania
Feria II et III Paschatis
Ascensio Domini
Feria II et III Pentecostes
Festum Ssmi Corporis Christi
Festum D. N. Jesu Christ! Regis
Inventio S. Grucis
Conceptio immaculata B. M. V.
Purificatio B. Mariae Virg.
Annuntiatio B. Mariae Virg.
Assumptio B. Marias Virg.
Nativitas B. Marias Virg.
Dedicatio S. Michaelis Archangeli
Nativitas S. Joannis Baptists
Festum S. Joseph, Sponsi B. Marias Virg., Gonf.
Solemnitas S. Joseph, Sponsi B. Mariae Virg., Gonf. et Ecclesiae universalis Patroni
Festum S. Andreae Ap.
Festum S. Thomas Ap.
Festum S. Joannis Ap. et Ev.
Festum S. Matthiae Ap.
Festum Ss. Philippi et Jacobi App.
Festum Ss. Petri et Paul! App.
Festum S. Jacobi Ap.
Festum S. Bartholomaei Ap.
Festum S. Matthaei Ap. et Ev.
Festum Ss. Simonis et Judae App.
Festum S. Stephani Protomartyris
Festum Ss. Innocentium Mm.
Festum S. Annae, Matris B. Mariae Virg.
Festum S. Laurentii Mart.
Festum S. Joachim, Patris B. Mariae Virg., Conf.
Festum Omnium Sanctorum
Festum Patronorum principalium Oppidi vel Giritatis, Dicecesis, Provincias et Nationis
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an that is alot :eek:
 
Here in Brooklyn, it is a Holy Day with our usual 8.30am Mass and then one at 7.30pm tonight.

We were also visiting in York, PA over the weekend and for their parish it was a Holy Day as well.

Hopefully others will follow! 🙂
 
Either the Church holds the keys of the kingdom or she doesn’t.
 
laszlo said:
Immediatelly as it will be public Holiday. The resolution to give everyone certain number of vacation days useable as religious Holiday for their choice.

To keep religious Holidays in workdays erodes the sense of festivity. This is the reason why since 1911 the number of the the Holy Days of obligation shows a diminishing trend.

Here is the list of Holy days of obligation from the ore 1911 breviary rubrics

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These were red-letter days, both first-and second-class feasts… They were NOT all holy days of obligation, which varied from region to region and nation to nation. In fact most of the above were never days of obligation.
 
It is a Holy Day of Obligation here. And it is my first HDoO since becoming Catholic! 😃
Luckily my parish is rather good with giving out enough times for people to attend.
There is a vigil on Weds around 7. Then today there are three, 6:30 am, 8:30 am and at 4:30 which will be followed by our monthly Eucharistic Adoration.

I do think it would be lovely to bring back more HDoO, but I guess it is a good thing that I am not in charge.
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Chatter163:
These were red-letter days, both first-and second-class feasts.
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Sorry, but what are red-letter days/first and second class feasts?

In Christ through Mary,
Nevermore
 
Nevermore22 said:
Sorry, but what are red-letter days/first and second class feasts?
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Those that are not listed as Solemnities. Like the Feast days of the Apostles, things like that. Those are the ones you recite the Gloria at if I am not mistaken.
 
Nevermore22 said:
Sorry, but what are red-letter days/first and second class feasts?

In Christ through Mary,
Nevermore
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Red letter days are the highest grade of feasts - so called because they were once written in red ink in the calendar to distinguish them form other days. For example, if you look at the calendar in this book (sorry, apparently page numbers aren’t given but its near the beginning to you’ll find it if you go forward), you’ll notice this convention (it’s a black and white scan mostly, but you can make out the red by the grey).

First and Second Class feasts is old terminology for the highest ranks of feasts. Today, we’d call them Solemnities and Feasts in the post-1969/70 liturgy.
 
Chatter163 said:
These were red-letter days, both first-and second-class feasts… They were NOT all holy days of obligation, which varied from region to region and nation to nation. In fact most of the above were never days of obligation.
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Well, it’s not entirely wrong, at least theoretically, since most were universal HDoO (not taking into account indults and particular law)before modifications of St. Pius X in 1911. See here for example.
 
Personally, I prefer holy days to be during the week. It adds something extra to my week to attend Mass an extra time! In my diocese, today was a holy day of obligation, and it was NOT bumped over to Sunday 🙂
 
Thank you. I’m glad NY still observes it on Thursday.

I have a question about the EF. How does one have a special mass for a solemnity. The mass was great but it was like any Sunday mass except there were priests acting as servers.
 
TrueLight said:
Thank you. I’m glad NY still observes it on Thursday.

I have a question about the EF. How does one have a special mass for a solemnity. The mass was great but it was like any Sunday mass except there were priests acting as servers.
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Our Mass (OF) this Sunday will probably be like a normal Sunday Mass, maybe with some special music or something (maybe our parish brass quintet or something), but as far as what goes on in the sanctuary, we are already have “all the stops pulled out,” so it will be grand, but nothing out of the ordinary, except, as I said above, musically.
 
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