Hard Look at Mission That Ended in Inferno for 3 Women

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This is an interesting case study and very sad, since one half of IED’s are discovered only when they blow us up. I’ve often wondered if the locals are merely victims or do they know what’s up. Unfortunately, it looks like they are tipped off and are guilty as sin:

“They planned this maybe for months,” he said. “Scoped our convoy out and saw typically where do the females sit. Maybe they had someone watching and they called on the cellphone.”

…Falluja should have been bustling on a Thursday evening in summertime. But the streets had been deserted for much of the day, which the American military had learned could be a signal that residents had been tipped off to an impending attack.

"I even told my buddy, ‘Something bad is going to happen today,’ " Corporal Saalman said. "

Another couple of interesting factoids from this article: The Marines have been sent back to relieve fatigued Army units. The Marines account for one sixth of our troops but experience one third of our casualties.

Out of our 20,000 plus casualties so far (dead and crippled for life), what percentage have been the victim of IED’s and suicide bombs, I wonder? How large that figure is can tell us a lot about how the war is going, because the locals really aren’t just smiling Muslims taking votes, but they are knowingly complicit in the civil war, too.
 
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Out of our 20,000 plus casualties so far (dead and crippled for life), .
This number is no where near accurate. About 70% of our wounded are returned to active duty.

Total wounded: 16061
Wounded returned to duty: 11243
So “maimed for life”: 4818
Wounded and returned to duty within 72 hours: 8567

By the way, the deaths by hostile action has not reached 2,000 yet. It is at 1838. Non-hostile deaths (by accidents, etc.) are 520.

icasualties.org/oif/
 
Yes. I am guilty of counting all our war dead and wounded.

For example, 2158 Americans dead in Iraq, plus 251 Americans dead in OEF, equals 2,407 Americans dead in the Bush WOT, so far. They died for us. All of them.

Isn’t it ironic that someone who likes to quote an American who went to fight for freedom and died, is now suggesting that really only 1838 Americans died in the war. Die in Iraq from disease, a helicopter crash, lost in a sand storm, or maybe die when the transport vehicle you are in is in an accident, and what? Even though you enlisted and were trained; you went to Iraq and fought for us and died - maybe you were on your second or third tour of duty in Iraq - but we don’t count you because “accidents” are no more common among GIs in Iraq right now than they are in Hinesville, Georgia or Fayetteville, North Carolina. You see, that way we can say only 1838 dead, so far.

UPI reported this in February 2004. From: LANDSTUHL, Germany, the Army’s biggest hospital in Europe, “the hospital has treated 11,754 soldiers from the war on terror, with 9,651 from Iraq and the rest from Afghanistan, according to data released by the hospital” and according to Col. Rhonda Cornum.

Notice that as of that time, nearly two years ago, that great hospital in Germany had treated 9,651 soldiers from Iraq. But you are suggesting that as of today, nearly two years latter, that my numbers are no way near accurate and that only 4818 soldiers are “maimed.” But of course, what is maimed? Col. Cornum reports that 1 in 10 patients from Iraq suffer pschiatric or behavorial damage for which they were evacuated. Are they maimed? Consider this:

"Yesterday, while preparing some onions and butternut squash, I got carried away with the knife and injured myself. That injury was treated with cold running water and a band aid that I’m not even using today.

On the other hand, if I had been hit in the same hand in my kitchen with a 7.62 X 39mm bullet traveling in excess of 700 meters per second, I would have lost several fingers and possibly my whole hand. That’s the difference between being injured and wounded. Contrary to what Hollywood would have us believe, being hit by bullets and shrapnel and secondary missiles from high explosives seldom causes something that might be dismissed as a “flesh wound.” Tearing and cavitation of tissue, the shattering of bone, the severance of vessels and tendons, not to mention the absolute septic filth of these insults to the human body are anything but “just” a flesh wound.

This is not the image some folks want us to carry around in our heads. We might lose our stomach for war, just as most of these “injured” troops do the very moment they are confronted with bleeding deformities, disfiguring burns, amputations, shock and pain, and often permanent disabilities.

Now you have your leg. Now you don’t. Get your head around that, and you’ve got your head around war."

The department of defense says 2,158 Americans dead in Iraq, plus 251 Americans dead in OEF, plus 16,159 Americans wounded in Iraq, plus 658 Americans wounded in OEF, which equals 19,222 (not including any of the dead and wounded of our allies).

I guess you can count those folks any way you want to.
 
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