Harry's non-RCIA Progress

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With the RCIA program shut down for three weeks at my local Church, I have been able to attend the 11 AM Mass without the Dismissal. I have experienced first hand some of the topics that have been brought up in previous threads.
  1. Yes, this Church gives blessings to adults who are in the Communion line, with hands folded across the breasts, to indicate that they will not be taking the bread and wine. Me, for example. I did the prayer of Spiritual Communion, of course:thumbsup:
  2. Yes, this Church does ask that all remain standing throughout the Eucherist, until all have been received. This seemed an excellent time for me to recite the Saint Gertrude Prayer for the Church Suffering, several times. I hope this helped out, even though I am a long way from being in a state of Grace. 😦
  3. For the Our father, we did stand and held hands outwards. However, we did NOT hold hands as a congregation, although I saw a few families that did it between themselves. I sometimes wonder if the hand-holding noted by some posters came from AA and/or Protestant Churches?:confused:
  4. It was announced that 1 January 2007 was not a Holy Day Of Obligation this year. :eek:
5I I still have not re-memorized the Nicene Creed. Heck, I’m still trying to get the HAIL, HOLY QUEEN memorized. :o
  1. As usual, I learned nothing new from the scripture readings. This RCIA Candidate h a s been around the block a few score times.:rolleyes: But the homilies have been pretty good. Well worth staying for, and far more interesting then Dismissal followed by re-hashing the readings in the RCIA Classroom.
  2. There is applause after the Priest announces that the Mass is ended.:clapping:
Thanks as always to my all-white cat, Fluffy. Without her “help” I could have typed this in half the time
 
Andruschak said:
5I I still have not re-memorized the Nicene Creed. Heck, I’m still trying to get the HAIL, HOLY QUEEN memorized. :o

Find out which one will be on the test and work on that (hint, it is the Creed, you don’t have it by memory at Easter we chuck you out, just kidding)
  1. As usual, I learned nothing new from the scripture readings.
surprise surprise, I learn something new every time I hear the readings (or maybe I’m so old I just forgot what I learned before and it all sounds new again)
  1. There is applause after the Priest announces that the Mass is ended.
sure it was not applause for the coffee and donuts offered after Mass?

Thanks as always to my all-white cat, Fluffy. Without her “help” I could have typed this in half the time
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if you drape her around your neck could she count as your “white garment”?
 
Do they clap because they are glad the mass is over? :confused:

Or are they saying thanks?

I’ve never heard of that, have you?
 
carol_marie said:
Do they clap because they are glad the mass is over? :confused:

Or are they saying thanks?

I’ve never heard of that, have you?
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The topic of clapping at the end of Mass came up in a previous thread or two. As a Candidate I have no opinion on it one way or the other. I just noted that it happens. I assume it is a way of saying thanks to the hard working Priest and his helpers.
 
Andruschak said:
White Garment? I’m supposed to be wearing a white garment? :eek:
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well, I don’t want to get personal, are you entitled to wear white?
don’t worry, the baptism folks will be given a while garment. you can just wear a nice dress suit (if it is black or navy, don’t pick up your white cat right before church.).
 
Andruschak said:
White Garment? I’m supposed to be wearing a white garment? :eek:
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Only at your baptism (though an awful lot also do at
first communion/confirmation). I don’t know whether you are going to be baptised or not. Though if you are, I don’t fancy kitty would like being anywhere near water :bigyikes:
 
puzzleannie said:
well, I don’t want to get personal, are you entitled to wear white?
don’t worry, the baptism folks will be given a while garment. you can just wear a nice dress suit (if it is black or navy, don’t pick up your white cat right before church.).
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Um, I am a biological male. I don’t have any kind of suit or other formal wear, aside from my kilt outfit. Clan Cameron, a bright red tartan as background, with four green bands and a smaller yellow thread.

And if that bit about wearing white relates to the tradition of unmarried virgins wearing white at their weddings…um, no…that will be a major part of my first confession.:rolleyes:

I have still not been informed if they have been able to get a copy of my Baptismal Certificate from the Church Of England, so I may have to get some sort of “Conditional” Baptism. I’ll let you know how things turn out.
 
LilyM said:
Only at your baptism (though an awful lot also do at
first communion/confirmation). I don’t know whether you are going to be baptised or not. Though if you are, I don’t fancy kitty would like being anywhere near water :bigyikes:
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In theory, I should not need another Baptism. As for Confirmation, I suppose my white dress shirt is acceptable.

Alas, I don’t think cats are allowed at Church services. They might think all that praise is intended for them, not God.
 
Andruschak said:
Alas, I don’t think cats are allowed at Church services. They might think all that praise is intended for them, not God.
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No doubt about it. They may get delusions based on the fact that some ancient cultures worshipped them. :cool:
 
carol_marie said:
Do they clap because they are glad the mass is over? :confused:

Or are they saying thanks?

I’ve never heard of that, have you?
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As an RCIA Candidate, and with RCIA closed until next week, I too was able to stay through an entire Mass without Dismissal. It was pretty much exactly as Andruschak described. The only difference was that we held hands during the Our Father. Here too, there was applause after Mass was over. It took my husband and I by surprise, but we joined in, as everyone was grinning. It seemed more of a celebratory, “that was an awesome Mass” kind of applause.
 
Fidelis said:
No doubt about it. They may get delusions based on the fact that some ancient cultures worshipped them. :cool:
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Just one culture, ancient Egypt, where they were Venerated, not Worshiped (sound familiar?) as sacred animals, but not Gods. Just as a great gift from the Gods.

And before anyone starts snickering at this kind of superstition, consider the circumstances. The Egyptians were subsistence farmers. Rodents were a constant menace, eating the precious grains. Cats drifted in to go after the rodents.

That jar of grain that lasted the family one week now lasted two weeks. A large family of cats meant getting through the winter alive, without having to sacrifice a child or two. It could be, and has been, argued that the rise of the great Egyptian Civilizations was made possible ONLY by the semi-domestication of the cat, which allowed a surplus of grain to exist.

Which may or may not account for the fact that the cats regard my rosaries as their toys.
 
Sometimes people clap when the choir does a particular moving song and are uplifting.

I know it is difficult for the Choir as they are just trying to do their job, but sometimes since these days they are often in the front and very visible so people clap for them. Even when they are up behind we are used to clapping for music, and putting the Choir up behind is a better option but not perfect as people sometimes clap anyways.

Unfortunately that is part of the culture and we have not done a good job of teaching truth as opposed to just letting culture seep into our worship without defending truth.

This will vary from parish to parish and this doesn’t mean that they are ill willed or bad. It just is an improper habit that has creeped in and eventually will be corrected.

In Christ
Scylla
 
Harry,

Your posts make me realize how blessed I am to have found the RCIA program at my parish! I too am a candidate and I sat through 20+ years of Church of Christ Sunday school, so I can match my group leader verse for verse 🙂

We actually have 2 RCIA groups–one composed mostly of catechumens that meets during the week and my group of three candidates that meet after 9:30 Mass. We get to stay through the entire mass, even on days when the catechumens are dismissed. If you can’t fit one of the two groups into your schedule, or if they’re not appropriate for your level of knowledge, a member of the RCIA team will give you personal instruction.

We do have hand holding during the Our Father, but no applause for the choir.

We’re also extremely lucky to be only a few miles away from the diocese’s seminary, so we have a wealth of knowledge at our disposal.

Sara
 
Andruschak said:
Um, I am a biological male. I don’t have any kind of suit or other formal wear, aside from my kilt outfit. Clan Cameron, a bright red tartan as background, with four green bands and a smaller yellow thread.

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pleeeeze wear the tartan, think how great it will look in the video.
 
I sometimes wonder if the hand-holding noted by some posters came from AA and/or Protestant Churches?
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The hand-holding was introduced by the parish priests originally, I have no idea why (I was not reading Catholic journals in those days, but I am sure it was advocated by someone as policy). We were specifically instructed to do it by our pastors.

After a couple of decades I was pretty comfortable with it, but it was clear that many were not comfortable holding hands with me, so I had to develop a ‘sixth sense’ about that. It wasn’t worth all the anxiety, raising hands aloft (orans style) was definitely an improvement for me.
There is applause after the Priest announces that the Mass is ended.
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:eek: The first time I witnessed this I was already an adult, I went into shock right then and there! Since then I have witnessed it a number of times over the years.

The Mass is not a performance, and the ministers of the Word, Eucharist, Song, Dance and Aisles are not performers. I feel like quite the curmudgeon for stating this but there is no way around it, that is inappropriate in the temple of God.

I wish all the candidates and catechumans many years of peace, health and happiness in the Light of Christ. 🙂
 
Hesychios said:
I wish all the candidates and catechumans many years of peace, health and happiness in the Light of Christ. 🙂
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Thank you. I am 62 years old, so not sure how much time is left. Doesn’t matter, really. I’m home
 
puzzleannie said:
pleeeeze wear the tartan, think how great it will look in the video.
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Oh YEAH!! ***You gotta wear that tartan! *** But only if you wear the full, formal outfit. Now THAT’S a positive example of cultural diversity! :dancing:

My mother’s family is Scottish: her mother’s family is descended from a sept associated to the Clan Gunn on the paternal side and directly from the Clan Muir on the maternal.
 
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