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Okay - now it’s clear and you have shown your true colors. You either your Catholic and you Believe that the Pope is the vicar of Christ and therefore infallible or your a heretic and believe in YOUR view of the Church. How very Protestant of you.O.k, first let me ask a favor, if you are not going to take the subject seriously, dont even bother answering. Childish remarks wont be taken seriously. Secondly, the breakage began with the election of a Mason/heretic Roncalli who was John XXIII. Scince he was not Catholic, he cannot be a true Pope. The final breakage came with the finalization of Vatican 2, (under the Mason/heretic Paul VI) which actually teaches heresy.
Maybe doctrine will help you understand. Hear are a couple of instances from Vatican 2 against the historical doctrine of the Catholic Church:
The Heresy that the Church is joined to those who reject her
Lumen Getium #15
"For several reasons the Church recognizes that it is joined to those who, though baptized and so honoured with the Christian name, do not profess the faith in its entirety or do not preserve communion under the successor of St. Peter.
It is a dogma that those who reject the Papacy are not jioned to the Catholic Church.
Pope Pius IX, Amantissimus (#3), April 8, 1862.
“There are other, almost countless, proofs drawn from the most trustworthy witnesss which clearly and openly testify with great faith, exactitude, respect and obedience that all who want to belong to the true and only Church of Christ must honor and obey this Apastolis See and the Roman Pontif.”
Pope Pius VI, Charitas (#32), April 13, 1791:
“Finaly, in one word, stay close to us. For one can be in the Church of Christ without being in unity with its visable head and founded on the See of Peter.”
Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (#13), June 29, 1896
“Therefore if a man dose not want to be, or to be called, a heretic, let him not strive to please this or that man…but let him hasten before all things to be in communion with the Roman See.”
The heresy that man has a right to be wrong
This final heresy is a result of all the rest and is the sythensis of all the others. This is the doctrine of freemasonry and is the result of the very first sin of Adam and Eve.
Dignitatis humanae #2:
“This Vatican synod declares that the human person has a right to religious freedom. Such freedom consists in this, that all should have such immunity from coercion by individuals, or by groups, or by human power, that no one should be forced to act against his conscience in religious matters, nor prevented from acting acording to his concience, whether in private or in public, within due limits.”
Dignitatis humanae #2:
“Therefore this right to non-interference persists even in those who carry out thier obligationsof seeking the truth and standing by it; and the exercise of this practice shal not be curtailed, as long as due public order is preserved…”
This contridicts the syllabus of Errors which was spoken ex-cathedra. Even antipope Benedict XVI admits that it contridicts it. He calls it a counter-syllabus.
Pope Pius IX, Syllabus of errors, Dec. 8, 1864, #77
“In this age of ours it is no longer expedient that the Catholic religion should be the only religion of the state, to the exclusion of all other cults whatsoever.” – CONDEMNED.
#78 “Hence in certain regions of Catholic name, it has been laudably sanctioned by law that men immigrating there be allowed to have public exercises of any form of worship of thier own.” – CONDEMNED.
#55 “The church is to be seperate from the state, an the state from the church.” – CONDEMNED.
There are several other examples that i can give you as long as they dont pull this thread. Let me leave you with one last thing before I close this entry. Rome has even changed the words of Christ himself.
At the Consencration over the Chalice: “This is the cup of my blood… Which will be shed for you and for all so that sins may be forgiven.”
The words Christ used as well as the entire history of the Church were, “For this is the chalice of my blood… which shall be shed for you and for many unto the remision of sins.”
This may not seem significant to you, but according to 2 Popes, if you make the change to these very words as has been done, you will not have a valid sacrement…
Any more questions?