Hate mail hits journal after fetal pain story

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Saturday, August 27, 2005
By Virginia Linn
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

It’s nothing short of “terrorism against science,” says Dr. Catherine D. DeAngelis, editor-in-chief of the Journal of the American Medical Association, about the hundreds of hate-filled e-mails she received this week after publishing a medical review on fetal pain by San Francisco researchers.

What the review said was that it’s unlikely that a fetus can feel pain until the seventh month of pregnancy. The findings challenge efforts by anti-abortion advocates who are pushing for laws requiring that doctors tell expectant mothers about fetal pain by the fifth month.

What it didn’t say, however, was that one of the University of California researchers who conducted the medical review, Dr. Eleanor Drey, directs San Francisco’s largest abortion clinic, and that another, Susan Lee, a medical student and lawyer, worked five years ago in the legal department for NARAL, an abortion rights group.

And that omission has unleashed a letter-writing and e-mail attack against the journal by anti-abortion advocates that’s become so vicious that DeAngelis has alerted the publication’s security staff.

Even though she wished she had known about Lee’s affiliations, those disclosures would not have stopped publication of the report in the peer-reviewed journal that she said was “extremely well written.”

“The article is based on science, the best available data at this point,” said DeAngelis, a pediatric specialist who has been editor-in-chief of JAMA since 1999.

Regarding Drey, an obstetrician/gynecologist, DeAngelis said there is nothing to disclose because performing abortions is in the scope of this specialty. Drey said in an interview earlier this week that having a person on the research team with expertise in abortions was beneficial in developing and understanding the data.

Neither Drey nor Lee considered their affiliations to be conflicts of interest.

DeAngelis, who is JAMA’s first female editor-in-chief in the 116-year history of the journal, said her organization has one of the strongest disclosure policies, and she has no plans to change it.

“Should I have them tell us what [political] party they voted for last time?” she asked.

“I’m a staunch Roman Catholic. I’ve never performed an abortion. I’ve never used birth control pills because of my beliefs,” she said. “But if I had to let my own personal beliefs get in the way, or my own religion or my own politics, I would have to leave my job.”

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David_Paul:
Saturday, August 27, 2005
By Virginia Linn
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

It’s nothing short of “terrorism against science,” says Dr. Catherine D. DeAngelis, editor-in-chief of the Journal of the American Medical Association, about the hundreds of hate-filled e-mails she received this week after publishing a medical review on fetal pain by San Francisco researchers.

What the review said was that it’s unlikely that a fetus can feel pain until the seventh month of pregnancy. The findings challenge efforts by anti-abortion advocates who are pushing for laws requiring that doctors tell expectant mothers about fetal pain by the fifth month.

What it didn’t say, however, was that one of the University of California researchers who conducted the medical review, Dr. Eleanor Drey, directs San Francisco’s largest abortion clinic, and that another, Susan Lee, a medical student and lawyer, worked five years ago in the legal department for NARAL, an abortion rights group.

And that omission has unleashed a letter-writing and e-mail attack against the journal by anti-abortion advocates that’s become so vicious that DeAngelis has alerted the publication’s security staff.

Even though she wished she had known about Lee’s affiliations, those disclosures would not have stopped publication of the report in the peer-reviewed journal that she said was “extremely well written.”

“The article is based on science, the best available data at this point,” said DeAngelis, a pediatric specialist who has been editor-in-chief of JAMA since 1999.

Regarding Drey, an obstetrician/gynecologist, DeAngelis said there is nothing to disclose because performing abortions is in the scope of this specialty. Drey said in an interview earlier this week that having a person on the research team with expertise in abortions was beneficial in developing and understanding the data.

Neither Drey nor Lee considered their affiliations to be conflicts of interest.

DeAngelis, who is JAMA’s first female editor-in-chief in the 116-year history of the journal, said her organization has one of the strongest disclosure policies, and she has no plans to change it.

“Should I have them tell us what [political] party they voted for last time?” she asked.

“I’m a staunch Roman Catholic. I’ve never performed an abortion. I’ve never used birth control pills because of my beliefs,” she said. “But if I had to let my own personal beliefs get in the way, or my own religion or my own politics, I would have to leave my job.”

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Then if I am correct she should leave her job is it goes against her Catholic beliefs. Her position is no different then those we elect and expect to follow what their church teches. IMHO You can not split your life into seperate cubicals.
 
Hmm…if this is a peer-reviewed journal, maybe they all need to get together, and watch a recording of an abortion taking place- and see the reaction of the baby.:rolleyes: If they can still say they don’t feel pain, they’re purposely lying- there is no way around that. If they would still perform an abortion after seeing it, no woman in her right mind would go to him- even if she wasn’t having an abortion.
 
“Terrorism against science”? This declaration by JAMA’s editor because of e-mail sounds a wee bit hysterical. If she wants to see vile e-mails, she should check the garbage sent to Michelle Malkin and others.

Why doesn’t JAMA’s editor admit to being lax on revealing conflict of interest by authors of this study? Why does JAMA stonewall on the fact that abortionists wrote a study that justifies abortion ?

Why does the editor of JAMA say here that she would have to leave her job if she let her religious beliefs ‘get in the way’? Her quest for an illustrious job dictates that she dump her ‘religious’ beliefs! How principled is this?
 
m134e5 & Lizzie…

Ok…haven’t had to use my “I’m not Catholic so I can’t speak on this from authority but…” disclaimer in a while but you two forced me into it. 🙂

I’ll pose it as assumptions and a question.

She was not involved in writing or researching this article. She is the editor-in-chief who selects a wide assortment of articles for publication. Probably wth the imput of an editorial board and the publisher.

Therefore, is she going against her faith by accepting this article for publication? If so, where is the line drawn? Should she reject all papers which attempt to minimize the evils of abortion or which are neutral? Is her lack of full disclosure the problem? (I think it is a huge problem for reasons aside for her faith, don’t know if her faith is another reason why not disclosing the background of the writers was a bad thing to do).
 
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m134e5 & Lizzie…

I’ll pose it as assumptions and a question.

She was not involved in writing or researching this article. She is the editor-in-chief who selects a wide assortment of articles for publication. Probably wth the imput of an editorial board and the publisher.

Therefore, is she going against her faith by accepting this article for publication? If so, where is the line drawn? Should she reject all papers which attempt to minimize the evils of abortion or which are neutral? Is her lack of full disclosure the problem? (I think it is a huge problem for reasons aside for her faith, don’t know if her faith is another reason why not disclosing the background of the writers was a bad thing to do).
Interesting questions!

Publishing a study assessing fetal sensation could easily be a neutral in investigation. But the JAMA editor made that very peculiar statement about religion which implied she assessed the article as one that excused abortion.

Should religion play a part in her job as editor? Of course. The benefits of euthanasia type studies, etc should be verboten.

The conflict of interest business is inexcusable. The editor is wrong in defending this.

In the past medical journals have published distorted studies in which researchers in the pay of pharmaceuticals promoted estrogen use and negated the serious associated cancer producing problems. After the public outrage, these journals finally instituted policies that required researchers to reveal their affiliation with drug companies. To my knowledge no other disclosures are required.
 
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