Have I let in Evil

[atheistgirl]

Would this be closer to your position? Or am I missing something here?

I’ve never said there is no God.

I personally do not see any evidence for the existence of such a Deity.

As a consequence I do not believe such a Deity exists.

However, what I see as lack of evidence for and my consequent lack of belief in such a Being does not mean such a Being does not, in fact, exist.

That’s why I would never say God does not exist.

I don’t believe He does exist, but that’s just me.

Finally would you prefer to be addressed as “Sarah” or “Atheistgirl”?

Shalom.

I’m happy with either.

Sarah is quicker to type out I guess

Sarah x

 

[Dorothy]

Sarah is a beautiful name!

 

[campeador]

Sarah, I will pray that the Supreme Being: the One Almighty, All Knowing and Everlasting God of the Universe makes Himself known to you in some meaningful way.

Most compassionate Jesus, You are the Light of the whole world. Receive into the abode of Your Most Compassionate Heart the souls of those who do not believe in God and of those who as yet do not know You. Let the rays of Your grace enlighten them that they, too, together with us, may extol Your wonderful mercy; and do not let them escape from the abode which is Your Most Compassionate Heart.

Eternal Father, turn Your merciful gaze upon the souls of those who do not believe in You, and of those who as yet do not know You, but who are enclosed in the Most Compassionate Heart of Jesus. Draw them to the light of the Gospel. These souls do not know what great happiness it is to love You. Grant that they, too, may extol the generosity of Your mercy for endless ages. Amen.​

 

[fredystairs]

The holy water is a sacramental.

It is harmless in itself, and if there is a belief it’s use can open open a person to certain graces, good things, then there’s no harm in my view, as the outcome with be neutral or positive, not negative.

Sarah x

Ms. Sarah,

I guess that where I’m coming from is that it does not seem to me that you are being true to your beliefs when you advise people to use sacramentals and the like. If there is no God, as you believe, then there are no graces to come from the sacramentals, which are their purpose.

Have you ever hear of St. Thomas Aquinas’ five ways? And have you ever played or know anything about the kids’ game of “Mousetrap”?

Shalom

 

[atheistgirl]

Ms. Sarah,

I guess that where I’m coming from is that it does not seem to me that you are being true to your beliefs when you advise people to use sacramentals and the like. If there is no God, as you believe, then there are no graces to come from the sacramentals, which are their purpose.

Have you ever hear of St. Thomas Aquinas’ five ways? And have you ever played or know anything about the kids’ game of “Mousetrap”?

Shalom

 

[atheistgirl]

Ms. Sarah,

I guess that where I’m coming from is that it does not seem to me that you are being true to your beliefs when you advise people to use sacramentals and the like.

Really

The poster is a Protestant, and is exploring Catholicism.

She asked the following:

is it ok to have Catholic items ie crucifix, sacred Heart. Holy water etc if I’m not yet Catholic? Speak soon Leah

I advised her on the use of Sacramentals according to the Catholic Church and linked to the relevant part of the Catechism.

I do not need to believe in these Sacramentals in order to demonstrate the Church position on them and their use to another poster.

Since the poster is it seems to me to be somebody who is drawn to this kind of thing, I feel she would be better placed mentally researching and using Catholic Sacramentals than using Satanic stuff that is causing her mental turmoil and worry as she is obviously a person of faith and belief in God.

If you see that as me not being true to my beliefs, I don’t actually care.

This is a Catholic site and as a guest here, I will, where **I **see it relevant, regardless of what you think, point posters to the Catholic position, where I’m familiar with it.

Have you ever hear of St. Thomas Aquinas’ five ways?

Yes.

And I’ve read them and studied them and read several explorations and critiques of them and don’t find them convincing.

And have you ever played or know anything about the kids’ game of “Mousetrap”?

Oh please.

I’m done talking to you here.

You are derailing the thread.

Open a new thread if you want to discuss me, and I’ll studiously ignore it

Sarah x

 

[fredystairs]

Really

The poster is a Protestant, and is exploring Catholicism.

She asked the following:

I advised her on the use of Sacramentals according to the Catholic Church and linked to the relevant part of the Catechism.

I do not need to believe in these Sacramentals in order to demonstrate the Church position on them and their use to another poster.

Since the poster is it seems to me to be somebody who is drawn to this kind of thing, I feel she would be better placed mentally researching and using Catholic Sacramentals than using Satanic stuff that is causing her mental turmoil and worry as she is obviously a person of faith and belief in God.

If you see that as me not being true to my beliefs, I don’t actually care.

This is a Catholic site and as a guest here, I will, where **I **see it relevant, regardless of what you think, point posters to the Catholic position, where I’m familiar with it.

Yes.

And I’ve read them and studied them and read several explorations and critiques of them and don’t find them convincing.

Oh please.

I’m done talking to you here.

You are derailing the thread.

Open a new thread if you want to discuss me, and I’ll studiously ignore it

Sarah x

My apologies, I have obviously upset you, not my intent. Actually you explanation above provided me with more understanding of your postion.

The only reason I asked about the game “Mousetrap” was to point out its similarity to the first two ways of St. Thomas. St. Thomas talks about the unmoved mover and the uncaused cause. Something needed to start the movement and the causes, which something he states is God. The game of mousetrap is a “Rube Goldberg” of several steps to trap the plastic mouse. However, the mouse cannot be trapped until such time as someone starts the sequence. Hence the similarity between the St. Thomas and the game.

Ignore me as you wish.

Shalom

 

[Casey123]

I recently posted regarding how I am starting to explore Catholicism and how I have started to find comfort and understanding in my Catholic partners views. In light of this I have been reflecting upon my previous spiritual journey and am now afraid that I may have opened my soul up to evil. My mum went through a stage where she believed herself to be pagan and books that she bought for me including spells sit (unread by me) on my bookshelf. My ex partner believed in magic and he once disclosed to me that he had placed a curse on two people. In addition, I used to read horoscopes and was fascinated by astrology (again I still have many books of this). My mum also introduced me to cosmic ordering which I have to confess I did try on several occassions. My dad who has now passed away gave me a piece of an egyption stone that he told me was from the pyramids, I’m worried that this may be cursed. My question is…what do I do about all of this…I feel like I have unknowlingly opened up my soul, my home and my son to great evil. I asked a vicar to bless my house but he said he could only pray for us and that I would need someone else to bless the house. My partner said that is because only a priest has the power to do this (forgive me if I have incorrectly phrased that). My partner said he would ask his priest to do this for me but as I am protestant can he do this for me? Thank you in advance.

No, you did not open up a big door to evil. I think a lot of this might be in your head. You know the old phrase that curses only have power over you if you believe in them? It’s completely true, but not because curses are real (they aren’t), but because you think they are and you let that possibility affect you to the point where you get worried and start attributing every little thing that goes wrong in your life to “The CURSE!! I’m CURSED!!”

I think you should relax a bit. If your mother was into paganism, it doesn’t really affect you, even if you tried it in the past - you are where your heart is now. Additionally, if your dad gave you a stone that was from an Egyptian pyramid, that’s pretty cool actually. You have a piece of history! You should take it to a historian that specializes in Egyptian artifiacts to confirm its authenticity. If it makes you uncomfortable, you can donate it to a museum or sell it to an interested buyer… in fact, I might even be interested and would gladly take it if it’s real.

As for your spiritual crisis, I don’t think it’s much of a crisis. There’s an ancient proverb: “Chill out, my friend”.

 

[Miriam1947]

Really

The poster is a Protestant, and is exploring Catholicism.

She asked the following:

I advised her on the use of Sacramentals according to the Catholic Church and linked to the relevant part of the Catechism.

I do not need to believe in these Sacramentals in order to demonstrate the Church position on them and their use to another poster.

Since the poster is it seems to me to be somebody who is drawn to this kind of thing, I feel she would be better placed mentally researching and using Catholic Sacramentals than using Satanic stuff that is causing her mental turmoil and worry as she is obviously a person of faith and belief in God.

If you see that as me not being true to my beliefs, I don’t actually care.

This is a Catholic site and as a guest here, I will, where **I **see it relevant, regardless of what you think, point posters to the Catholic position, where I’m familiar with it.

Yes.

And I’ve read them and studied them and read several explorations and critiques of them and don’t find them convincing.

Oh please.

I’m done talking to you here.

You are derailing the thread.

Open a new thread if you want to discuss me, and I’ll studiously ignore it

Sarah x

YAY Sarah. Great post. Thanks for being here.

 

[Loobyloo0209]

Hi…just been catching up on the posts from my thread. Thank you all so much for your advice, kind words and prayers. I’ve had a few days to think through and reflect and my conclusion is…I’m mental!..only kidding. I feel more relaxed about everything and am just glad that I’m at where I’m at now. I’ve gotton rid of all the things that were causing me to feel anxious and to the poster who showed an interest in my dads stone, if you have no negative feelings about it…you’re more than welcome to it. I’ve spoken at length to my partner about my feelings etc and as a converted Catholic (although lapsed at the minute) he understands where I’m at spiritually and mentally! To you Sarah…I feel your view of me is fairly accurate…so just wanted you to know that I’m really appreciative for the time and advise that uve given to me. I have valued your views and you have helped put things into perspective Than whilst appreciating and not being derogatory toward it being Catholicism that I’m exploring. Thanks all, Leah x