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I am embarrassed to say this, but long story short: awhile ago, my grandfather was in the hospital and was not doing well at all. There was little hope and doctors said he would pass away soon or that he is not recovering well; not sure but my family all knew he was going to pass away soon. During this time, a close family member of mine had a wedding coming up, and i was nervous about it; so in my head i was thinking that if my grandfather passed away before than maybe the wedding would be post-pone a little. at night i would pray for my grandfather to be OK, though. But for selfish reasons i was thinking this. My grandpa did pass away before because he was not well, but the wedding date went on - the priest had said not to cancel. none of the close family members danced though. anyway, i felt bad about this, but i did used to pray every night and even after he passed away for him to go to Heaven. Have i committed a mortal sin, though? Please help
 
I am embarrassed to say this, but long story short: awhile ago, my grandfather was in the hospital and was not doing well at all. There was little hope and doctors said he would pass away soon or that he is not recovering well; not sure but my family all knew he was going to pass away soon. During this time, a close family member of mine had a wedding coming up, and i was nervous about it; so in my head i was thinking that if my grandfather passed away before than maybe the wedding would be post-pone a little. at night i would pray for my grandfather to be OK, though. But for selfish reasons i was thinking this. My grandpa did pass away before because he was not well, but the wedding date went on - the priest had said not to cancel. none of the close family members danced though. anyway, i felt bad about this, but i did used to pray every night and even after he passed away for him to go to Heaven. Have i committed a mortal sin, though? Please help
So far I can’t see any sin in what you wrote, but I’m wondering what the “selfish reasons” were? If you can help me feel what you’re feeling, maybe I can help you find peace with it. 🙂

Alan
 
I agree with Alan. Based on what you wrote, I see some confused thinking perhaps but no real sin…
If this is truly bothering you i suggest you take it to your confessor and ask him about it.

Peace
James
 
If this is truly bothering you i suggest you take it to your confessor and ask him about it.
Exactly, it’s a simple solution, go to confession and tell your priest, it’s obviously bothering you!
 
I am embarrassed to say this, but long story short: awhile ago, my grandfather was in the hospital and was not doing well at all. There was little hope and doctors said he would pass away soon or that he is not recovering well; not sure but my family all knew he was going to pass away soon. During this time, a close family member of mine had a wedding coming up, and i was nervous about it; so in my head i was thinking that if my grandfather passed away before than maybe the wedding would be post-pone a little. at night i would pray for my grandfather to be OK, though. But for selfish reasons i was thinking this. My grandpa did pass away before because he was not well, but the wedding date went on - the priest had said not to cancel. none of the close family members danced though. anyway, i felt bad about this, but i did used to pray every night and even after he passed away for him to go to Heaven. Have i committed a mortal sin, though? Please help
So there is no confusion, i meant to say my selfish reasons for wanting (or thinking) if he passed away before the wedding. But, i plan on going to confession to ask the priest but i am embarrassed and i wanted to see if it was a mortal sin so i know if i should take the eucharist or not. i took it last Sunday, because i didn’t feel happy about this thought, so i don’t feel as though it was mortal but i am not positive.
 
We cannot possibly know enough about the circumstances to know whether or not you comitted a mortal sin. This is between you, your confessor and God.

No one on an a forum is going to to be able to state whether a sin is mortal. We might be able to tell you what is grave, but nothing else. A priest is the only person you should get this advice from.

Regarding receiving our Lord in Holy Communion, do what you feel is right in your heart. I can’t advise you there either.
 
So there is no confusion, i meant to say my selfish reasons for wanting (or thinking) if he passed away before the wedding. But, i plan on going to confession to ask the priest but i am embarrassed and i wanted to see if it was a mortal sin so i know if i should take the eucharist or not. i took it last Sunday, because i didn’t feel happy while having this thought, so i assumed that didn’t make it mortal, but i am not positive.
 
We cannot possibly know enough about the circumstances to know whether or not you comitted a mortal sin. This is between you, your confessor and God.

No one on an a forum is going to to be able to state whether a sin is mortal. We might be able to tell you what is grave, but nothing else. A priest is the only person you should get this advice from.

Regarding receiving our Lord in Holy Communion, do what you feel is right in your heart. I can’t advise you there either.
Ok, so is it grave? If you can tell me whether it’s grave or not than I would know if it was a mortal sin. i plan on asking my confessor about it
 
I cannot imagine it is grave, but I have no authority in this matter. Based on the information provided, it sounds venial if a sin at all. Again, talk to a priest. Then there is no doubt.
 
So there is no confusion, i meant to say my selfish reasons for wanting (or thinking) if he passed away before the wedding. But, i plan on going to confession to ask the priest but i am embarrassed and i wanted to see if it was a mortal sin so i know if i should take the eucharist or not. i took it last Sunday, because i didn’t feel happy about this thought, so i don’t feel as though it was mortal but i am not positive.
If in doubt, refrain from receiving the Blessed Sacrament until you have been to Confession.
 
I am embarrassed to say this, but long story short: awhile ago, my grandfather was in the hospital and was not doing well at all. There was little hope and doctors said he would pass away soon or that he is not recovering well; not sure but my family all knew he was going to pass away soon. During this time, a close family member of mine had a wedding coming up, and i was nervous about it; so in my head i was thinking that if my grandfather passed away before than maybe the wedding would be post-pone a little. at night i would pray for my grandfather to be OK, though. But for selfish reasons i was thinking this. My grandpa did pass away before because he was not well, but the wedding date went on - the priest had said not to cancel. none of the close family members danced though. anyway, i felt bad about this, but i did used to pray every night and even after he passed away for him to go to Heaven. Have i committed a mortal sin, though? Please help
It sounds like no sin at all, but if you are even questioning it’s gravity, then it can’t be mortal. To be mortal, you have to know it’s grave, and do it anyway.
 
It sounds like no sin at all, but if you are even questioning it’s gravity, then it can’t be mortal. To be mortal, you have to know it’s grave, and do it anyway.
Well i don’t think it’s mortal because i wasn’t happy about having this thought , so i would assume if i’m not happy about having had the thought it wouldn’t be a grave matter?
 
Well i don’t think it’s mortal because i wasn’t happy about having this thought , so i would assume if i’m not happy about having had the thought it wouldn’t be a grave matter?
No,you’re being happy, or not, about the thought isn’t the deciding factor in whether a sin is mortal or not. If you had any doubt that it was mortal, then it couldn’t be mortal, unless you were trying to kid yourself. Sometimes we want something so badly that we talk ourselves into thinking it’s not a sin. If rationally you weren’t certain that it was a grave sin, then it wasn’t grave in your case. You have to know the sin is grave, and freely commit it anyway, for it to be mortal.
 
A few thoughts:

I personally don’t see that having some thoughts about when a person will die is a grave sin, or any sin at all.

In general, the “rule of thumb” is that you are free to receive the eurcharist if you have any doubt whatsoever as to the gravity of the sin. If you’re uncertain it was a sin, you are free to receive Holy Communion.

Hope this helps a bit.
 
A few thoughts:

I personally don’t see that having some thoughts about when a person will die is a grave sin, or any sin at all.

In general, the “rule of thumb” is that you are free to receive the eurcharist if you have any doubt whatsoever as to the gravity of the sin. If you’re uncertain it was a sin, you are free to receive Holy Communion.

Hope this helps a bit.
I agree. If I am correct (jump in if I’m wrong) a mortal sin requires full knowledge and consent. I think others have alluded to this as well. If you don’t know whether it’s a mortal sin, then I would conclude that you must not have full knowledge. The consent comes in when you know that it is a grave matter, and you (consciously?) choose to do it anyway.

So whether it’s grave matter or not (and my personal guess it that it’s not) then if you did did know (or should have been expected to know) that it was grave matter and deliberately do it anyway, (which sounds to me a bit like a defiant attitude) then it becomes a mortal sin. I don’t hear this attitude from you, but that’s OK; it doesn’t change my point.

As far as what your actual motives are and how that figures into the situation, I have some thoughts about that I’d like to share in another post. I’ll get on that as soon as I get a chance – hopefully right now but I have to check the schedule first.

TTYL

Peace,
Alan
 
When it comes to my motives for doing things, I am quite clueless, when it comes right down to it.

I can think of all sorts of motives, but I can’t really tell you which ones were more and which were less instrumental in making any given decision.

For example, if you pray for your grandpa’s life, there are many reasons for doing so. Some pure love, and some with varying degrees of selfishness.

First of all, I think we all can agree that in and of itself, praying for another’s life to be extended is not a sin, except maybe in some very odd situations that totally don’t apply here I’m sure. For example, if I pray that my enemy may have a long life, that sounds very noble, and it’s a good thing to do. Now, if my motive was that I wanted him to live long so he could suffer for something I think he’s done, then my prayer is clearly motivated by my desire to punish, when that should be God’s job. But I’m assuming it is nothing like that.

Now, I’ll give you an example from my life how I came to grips with guilt over my motives, actually very recently.

There are many things that I find attractive about this forum. One thing I love to do is to jump into the middle of heated arguments, and trying to help break the logjam or help stop them from going around in circles. I did things like that years ago for my job, and I love doing it. As far as my motives for jumping into arguments, or for posting here at all, there are several I can think of:

1a) I want to be a peacemaker, so that I can help bring Jesus’s peace to the world.
1b) I want to think of myself and for other people to think of me as a peacemaker, because I like it when people think I’m good, especially when it comes to religious things.

2a) I want to improve my ability to communicate with people.
2b) I want to improve my ability to get people to see things my way.

3b) I have a need to share stories that tell me how much God has loved me.
3b) I have a desire to make people think I am blessed, or that I have been loved by God in ways they maybe haven’t.

4b) I want to gain social skills so that I may better share my views on Truth with people without offending them or otherwise causing them to become defensive and fail to hear them.
4b) I want to gain social skills so that I may better work with other people in a way that makes them want to pay me with money or other material wealth, or with their admiration.

5a) I like to help people get over their fears and anxieties. I was there, hated it, and if I can help pull others out the way God and good friends and family and good spiritual direction seemed to, then I’m using the life God gave me to advance His cause.
5b) I like to help people get over their fears and anxieties. I want people to think about me whenever they think about peace and happiness, so they can be grateful to me.

I can think of a hundred more possible motives, but I think we have a working set of examples. For each, I tried to make the -a ones be selfless reasons, and the -b ones be selfish reasons.

So now that I have listed out all the reasons I can think of for doing something that I do (and almost compulsively so) then the question becomes, which one(s) actually caused my behavior, thought, or decision, and does that make me selfless or selfish.

Here comes the Good News: you don’t have to know your exact motives, but God does and He will take that “need to judge yourself” from you, at the asking. I cannot honestly tell you whether it is the -a reasons or the -b reasons I post on this forum. I have zero doubt that is is some mixture of them, but it is too complicated to know which, if any, took the leading role.

Meanwhile, since I see that it is having positive effects, at least in my imagination, I see that no matter my motives I’m hopefully doing good rather than harm.

But I’m human, not God. Therefore, it is inevitable that my motives include both types of motives.

For example, maybe I want to do something I know my dad would like me to do. Just as I’m getting started, my dad sees me across the room and says, “I want you to dump this trash right now, before you go out, or you will be grounded.” All of a sudden it isn’t about doing a nice thing for dad. It’s about avoiding punishment. Or is it? How can we know which? Well, as far as I see it, it’s still the right thing to do, to take the trash out for whatever the motive is. So my pride and ego are a bit hurt or confused, because we didn’t get the pleasure of a random act of Good Deed. But I should not feel guilty for taking the trash out, because it was the right thing to do regardless of why.

Is this making any sense? I’m not sure I’m paving a road that is easily followed. I’ll go ahead and post this, and if I think of something more or better or if I’m asked, I’ll be baaaack. 😛

Lord, I pray that the OP may find peace and comfort in Your loving touch. I ask You to help her hear the voice of Your Holy Spirit when making decisions, and truly recognize your mercy and experience Your healing so that she may be delivered from this pain, if and when it is Your will. Through Jesus Christ, Amen.

Alan
 
When it comes to my motives for doing things, I am quite clueless, when it comes right down to it.

I can think of all sorts of motives, but I can’t really tell you which ones were more and which were less instrumental in making any given decision.

For example, if you pray for your grandpa’s life, there are many reasons for doing so. Some pure love, and some with varying degrees of selfishness.

First of all, I think we all can agree that in and of itself, praying for another’s life to be extended is not a sin, except maybe in some very odd situations that totally don’t apply here I’m sure. For example, if I pray that my enemy may have a long life, that sounds very noble, and it’s a good thing to do. Now, if my motive was that I wanted him to live long so he could suffer for something I think he’s done, then my prayer is clearly motivated by my desire to punish, when that should be God’s job. But I’m assuming it is nothing like that.

Now, I’ll give you an example from my life how I came to grips with guilt over my motives, actually very recently.

There are many things that I find attractive about this forum. One thing I love to do is to jump into the middle of heated arguments, and trying to help break the logjam or help stop them from going around in circles. I did things like that years ago for my job, and I love doing it. As far as my motives for jumping into arguments, or for posting here at all, there are several I can think of:

1a) I want to be a peacemaker, so that I can help bring Jesus’s peace to the world.
1b) I want to think of myself and for other people to think of me as a peacemaker, because I like it when people think I’m good, especially when it comes to religious things.

2a) I want to improve my ability to communicate with people.
2b) I want to improve my ability to get people to see things my way.

3b) I have a need to share stories that tell me how much God has loved me.
3b) I have a desire to make people think I am blessed, or that I have been loved by God in ways they maybe haven’t.

4b) I want to gain social skills so that I may better share my views on Truth with people without offending them or otherwise causing them to become defensive and fail to hear them.
4b) I want to gain social skills so that I may better work with other people in a way that makes them want to pay me with money or other material wealth, or with their admiration.

5a) I like to help people get over their fears and anxieties. I was there, hated it, and if I can help pull others out the way God and good friends and family and good spiritual direction seemed to, then I’m using the life God gave me to advance His cause.
5b) I like to help people get over their fears and anxieties. I want people to think about me whenever they think about peace and happiness, so they can be grateful to me.

I can think of a hundred more possible motives, but I think we have a working set of examples. For each, I tried to make the -a ones be selfless reasons, and the -b ones be selfish reasons.

So now that I have listed out all the reasons I can think of for doing something that I do (and almost compulsively so) then the question becomes, which one(s) actually caused my behavior, thought, or decision, and does that make me selfless or selfish.

Here comes the Good News: you don’t have to know your exact motives, but God does and He will take that “need to judge yourself” from you, at the asking. I cannot honestly tell you whether it is the -a reasons or the -b reasons I post on this forum. I have zero doubt that is is some mixture of them, but it is too complicated to know which, if any, took the leading role.

Meanwhile, since I see that it is having positive effects, at least in my imagination, I see that no matter my motives I’m hopefully doing good rather than harm.

But I’m human, not God. Therefore, it is inevitable that my motives include both types of motives.

For example, maybe I want to do something I know my dad would like me to do. Just as I’m getting started, my dad sees me across the room and says, “I want you to dump this trash right now, before you go out, or you will be grounded.” All of a sudden it isn’t about doing a nice thing for dad. It’s about avoiding punishment. Or is it? How can we know which? Well, as far as I see it, it’s still the right thing to do, to take the trash out for whatever the motive is. So my pride and ego are a bit hurt or confused, because we didn’t get the pleasure of a random act of Good Deed. But I should not feel guilty for taking the trash out, because it was the right thing to do regardless of why.

Is this making any sense? I’m not sure I’m paving a road that is easily followed. I’ll go ahead and post this, and if I think of something more or better or if I’m asked, I’ll be baaaack. 😛

Lord, I pray that the OP may find peace and comfort in Your loving touch. I ask You to help her hear the voice of Your Holy Spirit when making decisions, and truly recognize your mercy and experience Your healing so that she may be delivered from this pain, if and when it is Your will. Through Jesus Christ, Amen.

Alan
Thank you for that beautiful prayer and post! God bless you, Alan. Also, I didn’t mean I was praying for his life selfishly , I meant having the thought of wanting my grandfather to pass way earlier than later -which was for a selfish reason. I didn’t want him to pass away, don’t get me wrong! But it was going to happen, we all knew. I prayed for him bc I he’s my grandfather and I felt a duty to pray for his life , as well as others who are dying or suffering . I felt bad for thinking that after he had passed. I will confess either way , thank you!
 
Thank you for that beautiful prayer and post! God bless you, Alan. Also, I didn’t mean I was praying for his life selfishly , I meant having the thought of wanting my grandfather to pass way earlier than later -which was for a selfish reason. I didn’t want him to pass away, don’t get me wrong! But it was going to happen, we all knew. I prayed for him bc I he’s my grandfather and I felt a duty to pray for his life , as well as others who are dying or suffering . I felt bad for thinking that after he had passed. I will confess either way , thank you!
Whoops! Maybe I got it backwards… :o

Anyway I’d say that since you cannot control – that is change – the past, then one way to help get over is to affirm for yourself that the Holy Spirit is in charge, and strive for complete trust in God as working through Him… since we all believe that God can turn bad into good, then don’t let your mind assume that just because you felt guilty or unpleasant or confused at the time, that this whole thing – every single detail – is any way other than how God would have it.

So if you were guilty, let Him use that to work a miracle in you. Or maybe He may use it to work a miracle in me or somebody else. Go ahead and confess, if that’s where you are lead, and just expect that God can and will use every circumstance of our lives for a good that only He comprehends. If we’re lucky, we can see the results in our lifetime and confirm that if we “cleanse” our past of certain mistakes, we may not have grown as far as we have now. Since we don’t really know, it doesn’t pay to judge.

That isn’t to say you may not judge; if I said that I am binding you with my words. Judge if you will, or if you can’t help it. My only message is that it’s optional, and whatever your judgment – or God’s judgment for that matter – He can use all things for His good.
2 Cor 9:8:
Moreover, God is able to make every grace abundant for you, so that in all things, always having all you need, you may have an abundance for every good work.
Rom 8:26-28:
In the same way, the Spirit too comes to the aid of our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but the Spirit itself intercedes with inexpressible groanings. And the one who searches hearts knows what is the intention of the Spirit, because it intercedes for the holy ones according to God’s will. We know that all things work for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose.
Alan
 
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