I don’t see a problem with it.I was wondering if it would be ok to have an Orthodox priest say a Divine Liturgy for the repose of the soul of my cousin. I am having a Roman Catholic priest say a Mass for the repose of her soul so I was wondering if it would be ok or not?
Certainly, there are Divine Liturgies said for those who have died.I didn’t realize that the Orthodox took “intentions” for the Divine Liturgy.
Of course not. The OP is referring to have a Divine Liturgy said for the person, not a Mass.Is an Eastern Orthodox Priest actually allowed to perform a Catholic Mass?
I think reading these Orthodox prayers for the dead will help clarify the Orthodox belief:If they don’t take issue with it, go for it. However I’m not sure if they would even do it.
I say this due to the fact that Orthodoxy doesn’t have the belief in purgatory, like Catholicism does. At least as far as I understand it, masses said for people are most of the time done to help the person along in their time in purgatory.
But go for it. If they don’t you could just have a non-latin rite priest say a mass for them aswell.
O Almighty God and our Father, fount of time and eternity, who by Thy power hast set a term of our life on earth, and through Thine only-begotten Son dost grant unto us, through resurrection, immortal life and a kingdom which cannot be moved, do Thou remember Thy servant N. who hath fallen asleep in the hope of resurrection unto life eternal, we beseech Thee, hear and have mercy.
O Father, holy and good, for as by the offence of one man, our forefather, sin entered into the world, and death by sin, so may we be inheritors of eternal life by the righteousness of Thine all-perfect Son, and do Thou give rest to the soul of Thy servant N. and preserve it unto the blessed life that is with Thee, we beseech Thee, hear and have mercy.
O Lord God, Father Almighty, in the name of Thy beloved Son, our hope, Who gave Himself for a ransom to death wherein we were held fast and continue so to this day, sold under sin: Do Thou loose the grievous shackles of our death, make us sons of resurrection, and receive into Thy rest, (where all Thy saints have found repose) the soul of Thy servant N. we beseech Thee, hear and have mercy.
O Lord Jesus Christ, Eternal God, Who dost uphold all things by the power of Thy word, Who didst make Thyself of no reputation, and took upon Thee the form of a servant, wast crucified and descended into hell; Who opened the way of resurrection for all flesh slain by sin and in the bondage of corruption, give rest to the soul of Thy servant N. who hath set his hope in Thee, our Maker, the Author of our being, and our God, we beseech Thee, hear and have mercy.
O Lord Jesus Christ, Who in the days of Thy sojourn with us in the flesh, and Thy saving passion didst cry unto Thy Father: Holy Father, I will that they also, whom Thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which Thou hast given me: for Thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world: Mercifully now receive Thy servant N. who is come before Thee, and accept him as a partaker of Thine imperishable glory, we beseech Thee, hear and have mercy.
For Thou are the resurrection and the life and the repose of Thy departed servant N. O Christ our God; and unto Thee we ascribe glory, together with Thine eternal Father, and Thy most holy, good and life-giving Spirit; now, and forever: world without end. Amen.
May Christ our true God who is risen from the dead, by the prayers of His most holy Mother; of the holy and all-glorious apostles; of our righteous and holy father, and of all the saints; establish in the mansions of the righteous the soul of his servant N. grant him rest in Abraham’s bosom, and number him with the righteous, and upon us have mercy. For He is good and loving-kind.
They do pray for the dead, despite a lack of a doctrine of purgatory.If they don’t take issue with it, go for it. However I’m not sure if they would even do it.
I say this due to the fact that Orthodoxy doesn’t have the belief in purgatory, like Catholicism does. At least as far as I understand it, masses said for people are most of the time done to help the person along in their time in purgatory.
But go for it. If they don’t you could just have a non-latin rite priest say a mass for them aswell.
There is a somewhat analogous “tollhouse” theology propounded by some EO, in which there is a progression proceeding from tollhouse to tollhouse, but it is not universally accepted (and indeed widely condemned by parts of EO).I say this due to the fact that Orthodoxy doesn’t have the belief in purgatory, like Catholicism does.
But why? If they don’t believe in purgatory then there’s only heaven and hell.They do pray for the dead, despite a lack of a doctrine of purgatory.
Re-read post #10But why? If they don’t believe in purgatory then there’s only heaven and hell.
If they’re in heaven, then there’s no need to pray for them, as they are already with god.
If they’re in hell, then the prayers offered for them wouldn’t do any good and would just be in vain.
And what if they’re in purgatory? Understand that purgatory is on the right side of heaven.But why? If they don’t believe in purgatory then there’s only heaven and hell.
If they’re in heaven, then there’s no need to pray for them, as they are already with god.
If they’re in hell, then the prayers offered for them wouldn’t do any good and would just be in vain.
No one is in hell until after the final judgement at Christ’s second coming. Nothing is set in stone until then so out of love we seek God’s mercy upon their souls.But why? If they don’t believe in purgatory then there’s only heaven and hell.
Well put.No one is in hell until after the final judgement at Christ’s second coming. Nothing is set in stone until then so out of love we seek God’s mercy upon their souls.
There is no law against love.
I thought immediately after death, a soul is judged by Christ. And that, if an unrepented mortal sin is on their soul, they are damned and subsequently descend into Hell.No one is in hell until after the final judgement at Christ’s second coming. Nothing is set in stone until then so out of love we seek God’s mercy upon their souls.
There is no law against love.
If I recall correctly, the Orthodox believe in a sort of intermediate state after death where no one is technically in heaven or hell. The blessed are in one “area” enjoying a foretaste of the glory of heaven, while the damned are in another “area” experiencing a foreshadowing of the torments of hell, with neither group’s experiencing the fullness of either until the final judgement. The Orthodox believe (again IIRC, and the Orthodox posters here should feel free to correct me) that those on the “bad side” can still be helped by prayers until the last day, when their fate is finally sealed.I thought immediately after death, a soul is judged by Christ. And that, if an unrepented mortal sin is on their soul, they are damned and subsequently descend into Hell.