He does it all the time?

[carn]

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=609494
From the answer:
“Of course, God takes human life. He does it all the time.”

When? How?

When someone jumps before a train, he is sure to die. God did not take his life, he took it himself.
When someone is pushed before a train, he is sure to die. God did not take his life, the person pushing him did so.
When someone drives drunken and kills someone, God did not take any life, the drunken driver did.
When someone dies at age 105, since finally one cancer got past body defense, God did not take his life, the body was from a start due to its makeup destined to fail sooner or later.

In all these cases one could only say, that God took a life in so far as He is resposible for creating this world in which jumping before trains is deadly, drunken driving is dangerous and human bodies sooner or later fail.
This does not mean that he could not or should not take life, but mainly that he does not seem to do it all the time. The only way wouldbe bysaying that in maintaining the natural laws of the universe, God has its part in killing (e.g. electromagnetic forces spell the end of the person hit by a train). But keeping laws the same doe not fit into doing something active.

So what is meant with “he does it all the time”?

 

[Trishie]

I agree.
Many people blame God, and tun away from Faith in the circumstances you mention.
Our choices, attitudes, environment, diet, lifestyle, others’ behavior, genetics, and a range of factors determine much that happens to us.
God is of course always present with grace and blessing, and God is desirous of welcoming us into His mercy.

 

[Heuchler]

Yeah Carn, you have a great point. I always have liked to answer that other question by saying we have all sinned, and all deserve to die and that it is a miracle God allows us to continue to live and possibly sin in the future. But we continue to live out of love and God is perfectly just if he decides to wipe out all of humanity at this moment.

 

[Saburo]

You are forgetting natural disasters: Floods, earthquakes, lightning strikes, typhoons, volcanic explosions, mudslides, tidal waves, wildfires, storms, pandemics, crop failures, drought, lawn darts.

Maybe not lawn darts. The person arguing for God killing millions was probably referring to the Great Flood. God does kill all the time. Jesus makes a similar point about the Tower of Siloam falling and killing 18 who were not particularly sinful.

 

[carn]

You are forgetting natural disasters: Floods, earthquakes, lightning strikes, typhoons, volcanic explosions, mudslides, tidal waves, wildfires, storms, pandemics, crop failures, drought, lawn darts.

All this is a consequence of the natural laws created by God. Upholding them does in my eyes mean killing. Only if God would have had the option to create differering laws, which would have included less of the above, one might assume an act, that could qualify as killing (Though even then it might have been replacing more draught with less floods).
So i would not call that killing, unless i get evidence that the natural laws could have been created differently resulting in less natural catastrophes.

Maybe not lawn darts. The person arguing for God killing millions was probably referring to the Great Flood. God does kill all the time. Jesus makes a similar point about the Tower of Siloam falling and killing 18 who were not particularly sinful.

And last time i checked the flood happened long past, so does not connect with doing “He does it all the time”. (Furthermore the church does not claim it as historical fact as far as i know.)

Can you refer to the passage about that tower?