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If parents are reunited with their children in heaven, what happens when a child goes to hell? I know that it would not be heaven if I had a child suffering in hell because of their sins.

The only answer that I have been given is really not one. I was told that if a parent raises their child properly then that child will not go to hell.

This answer is flawed in many was.

This is because there are cases of both parents dying when a child is an infant.

Obviously the parents loved their child, but could not raise that child. The child could end up being raised in a God-less home and committing evil acts. Thus condemning that child to eternity in hell.

So how could these parents spend eternity in heaven knowing that their only earthly child is burning in eternity in hell?
 
Because your love for God will be (and should be now) stronger than your love for your child. Remember the words of Jesus Himself, "He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me;’ (Matt 10:37). Ultimately, if you child ends up in hell, it is because they chose to go there.
 
So the short answer is that we are not reunited with our families in heaven. Because in heaven the only thing that is present is the love of God? Everything else becomes irrealvant?
 
Now this is purely speculation… i don’t believe for a moment that we will be mind numb robots in heaven and will not know or understand our childs choice to go to Hell…

but, at the same time, I think there will be an understanding that we at this time cannot fathom, and we will probably have to go to heaven to ever understand…

I remember a story in the Bible about Lazerus (not the friend of Christ) whose slave went to heaven and he didn’t and he looked across the abyss and saw his slave in the comfort of salvation and just asked that he dip his finger in the water an touch his tongue, but his request could not be honered… then he asked that the slave return to earth and warn his brothers because he didn’t want the same thing happening to his family, and would hope they would listen to him and change their sinful ways… the saint with Lazerus told him that the prophets were there to warn them and that would have to suffice… they will have to make their own decision…

Long story short… weather we will be able to look accross the large abyss and see or (reunite) with those friends and family that chose Hell (and hopefully that won’t happen to our family) I have no idea… but, we don’t think like God, and since there will be no sadness in heaven, I can only surmise that there will be and enlightenment or understanding…

Peace… 👍
 
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bfrygopman:
If parents are reunited with their children in heaven, what happens when a child goes to hell? I know that it would not be heaven if I had a child suffering in hell because of their sins.

The only answer that I have been given is really not one. I was told that if a parent raises their child properly then that child will not go to hell.

This answer is flawed in many was.

This is because there are cases of both parents dying when a child is an infant.

Obviously the parents loved their child, but could not raise that child. The child could end up being raised in a God-less home and committing evil acts. Thus condemning that child to eternity in hell.

So how could these parents spend eternity in heaven knowing that their only earthly child is burning in eternity in hell?
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Thats why I recommend my children to God every-morning as I don’t want any of them going there, I always say “I consecrate my self and my family to the mercy of God” and leave it in Gods hands.
 
You touch on a great mystery that our minds can only understand in a limited way. I have four children and cannot imagine being happy anywhere if one of them were in hell. But, our understanding of hell is that everyone is given a clear choice and that those who are in hell choose, in a sense, to be there and the result is considered just by all. Those in hell cannot abide the presence of God, that is why they are separated from Him. It says that God will “wipe every tear from our eyes,” This doesn’t say to me that we won’t grieve the loss because we’re in some kind of blissful fog that pushes out all love for others, it says to me that God will comfort us and that comfort will be sufficient. I’m sure that God grieves more than we at the loss of even one soul.

I will say that I am doing everything in my power to equip my kids to make the choice for Christ so I don’t have to find out what would happen.

I’m not a theologian, just the humble opinion of a dad who loves his family.
 
No one will be able to explain this until they get there. Will we recognize each other? Yes, But we will be totally consumed in the love of God that nothing else matters. The Saints hear our prayers but it’s not like they are all sitting in some little room answering the prayer lines and the Boss stops in now and then. They hear our prayers because they are totally united to God and share in His Divinity.
 
The only answer to this question that I could come up with is this:

God created us in his own likeness.

I think heaven is a place of clarity not a fog of bliss.

I think things are presented and stand as they are not sugar-coated.

In heaven there is sorrow, but the sorrow is not couple with fear or hate.

Perhaps God has the same type of feelings that we have.

If we go to heaven and a child of ours doesn’t, that maybe God does not offer a solution. Maybe he just shares and morns our sorrow as much as we do because it is also one of his children in hell. It maybe this relationship with God that comforts us allows us to have sorrow, but not to fear.
 
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bfrygopman:
So the short answer is that we are not reunited with our families in heaven. Because in heaven the only thing that is present is the love of God? Everything else becomes irrealvant?
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That’s pretty much the way it is put rather callously but true.

The problem with most people is not - that they do not love God but that they don’t know who he is. Basic Catechism tells us we must know, love and serve God. But we can not love and serve Him if we do not know Him. Is it hard for me to imagine that I must love God more than my child? Yes it is - speaking as a mother of 4 I can honestly say that there is nothing in this world I love more than my children. But I must put God before them. Here is a quote from St. Rita “I would rather see my children dead than commit one mortal sin against God” Whoaa… there’s a hard one to choke down. When I first read that I could not fathom it. And I will not hesitate to believe that most who read it now will be shaking their heads. But it is the truth, if God is lost than all is lost, our life has been in vain. Our quest for happiness is a quest for the infinite goodness, the infinite truth, the infinte beauty which only the supernatural possession of God in glory can truly give.

This fuzzy notion that happiness lies when we’re all together in heaven is wrong. Happiness lies in God and God alone St. Augustine said “Our heart, O Lord, is restless until it rest in Thee.” It is only in heaven in possession of the Beatific Vision that we will know full and unending joy.

Alot of people get caught up worrying about those they love and what if they’re in hell. You must trust in God and his justice and mercy. They lived their lives, they are the ones who are accountable. When all is just in the eyes of God, that which is not we will not be able to tolerate. (which is another reason that parents must teach their children very very seriously)

That is why we study our religion, namely, so we may know the goodness and greatness of God and place all our hopes for happiness in loving and possessing Him for all eternity.
 
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bfrygopman:
If parents are reunited with their children in heaven, what happens when a child goes to hell? I know that it would not be heaven if I had a child suffering in hell because of their sins.

The only answer that I have been given is really not one. I was told that if a parent raises their child properly then that child will not go to hell.

This answer is flawed in many was.

This is because there are cases of both parents dying when a child is an infant.

Obviously the parents loved their child, but could not raise that child. The child could end up being raised in a God-less home and committing evil acts. Thus condemning that child to eternity in hell.

So how could these parents spend eternity in heaven knowing that their only earthly child is burning in eternity in hell?
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Scripture makes some pretty significant promises to believing parents. See Acts 2:38 & 39. Your baptized children are in covenant with God. Raise them in the Lord and show them what faith looks like. God is faithful to Christian parents. Trust in His promises, not the exceptions to the rules. You should have every hope, if your hope is in God’s faithfulness to your kids that they are in Him. And if they are currently in rebellion pray and trust God to bring them back. To say it another way - don’t put your faith in your children, put your faith in God for your children.

Mel
 
Another problem is that in our modern society, parental(and especially maternal) love has been exalted almost to the level of an idol in popular culture, out of all proportion to its proper place, and I think a lot of us subliminally feel, no matter what what we might say, that it is the highest form of love. This is a dangerous trap, as any form of love outside of our love for God, if so exalted, can only lead to idolatry and separation from God. Of course our care and concern for our children is a beautiful, valuable and necessary trait; we just need to remember that it is always secondary to our love for Christ.
 
Another problem is that in our modern society, parental(and especially maternal) love has been exalted almost to the level of an idol in popular culture, out of all proportion to its proper place, and I think a lot of us subliminally feel, no matter what what we might say, that it is the highest form of love. This is a dangerous trap, as any form of love outside of our love for God, if so exalted, can only lead to idolatry and separation from God. Of course our care and concern for our children is a beautiful, valuable and necessary trait; we just need to remember that it is always secondary to our love for Christ.

I understand what you are saying but you must also look at culture from a macro level.
What I am saying is that our society has a way of protecting itself from people that are misled by false prophets and Cults.
One of these ways is putting pressure on parents to put their children above all. To some it may seem pagan, but it really isn’t.
If society came out as a whole and said “Put God before your children.”
We would be hearing daily of parents that sacrafice their children “for god”.

Religion has tremendous power over people. With great power comes great amount of responsiblity.
There are a lot of nutty people out there. We all must be careful of what we say and in the context in which we say it.
 
because obviously ur united with God so perfectly in Heaven that Ur son or daughter doesnt matter—its an obvious answer sp please dont waster everyone’s time…
 
because obviously ur united with God so perfectly in Heaven that Ur son or daughter doesnt matter—its an obvious answer sp please dont waster everyone’s time

I think that maybe you need to relax and keep your pompus attitued to yourself.
Obivoulsy you have a lot more to learn pal.

It is very obvious that you don’t have children.
 
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bfrygopman:
I understand what you are saying but you must also look at culture from a macro level.
What I am saying is that our society has a way of protecting itself from people that are misled by false prophets and Cults.
One of these ways is putting pressure on parents to put their children above all. To some it may seem pagan, but it really isn’t.
If society came out as a whole and said “Put God before your children.”
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I’m not really understanding what you are talking about here.

There’s wacko’s out there at every walk of life but that does not extract from what is truth. “Truth is truth” because people warp and twist it, it still does not change. You can not stop teaching truth because people turn it into perversion.
 
*I’m not really understanding what you are talking about here.

There’s wacko’s out there at every walk of life but that does not extract from what is truth. “Truth is truth” because people warp and twist it, it still does not change. You can not stop teaching truth because people turn it into perversion.*

I am not talking about warping the truth or anything like that.
What I am saying is the society has evolved in the way that it is.
The simple fact is if socitey deemed to all that All people shall put God before their own children.
There would be hundreds of thousands of people crazy things like offering their children to sacrifice, abandoning them, and having intercourse with them. ALL in the name of God.

The way it is now, works. Socitey pressures people to take care of there children and does not dictate religion.
 
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catholicboi79:
because obviously ur united with God so perfectly in Heaven that Ur son or daughter doesnt matter—its an obvious answer sp please dont waster everyone’s time…
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:tsktsk: Catholic Boy, you need to start acting like what your name says. Ironically, your answer could possibly been a good one had it been worded a little nicer but because it was in large font, which was tantamount to shouting, and followed by a rude comment, you owe an apology to bfrygopman. He asked a question that plagues all parents. We all wonder how we would ever be happy in heaven if, God forbid, one of our children will be suffering in Hell. All I can say is that God has promised me happiness in heaven and I just have to trust Him completely. I also feel that we will love all God’s people perfectly and completely so our personal relationships from earth will be expanded to encompass all.
 
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There would be hundreds of thousands of people crazy things like offering their children to sacrifice, abandoning them, and having intercourse with them. ALL in the name of God.
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I understand what you are saying, - society is nutty, this kind of thing is happening all the time “In the Name of God” . I’m not exactly sure how people get sucked into false religions and cults, but they do and society - well on a whole they just don’t love God so this concept is not for them and they would never teach it. But it is the truth. One has to move closer to God to understand the Truth. And the closer to God one becomes the more they start to resemble the Saints. And Saintly behaviour is exactly that … Saintly! :gopray:
 
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