Hebrew 10:26

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I have listened to many of Scott Hahns (hope he is recovering well) stuff and everything in the Bible is about Mass and the Eucharist. Yes the trinity is all over the Bible, even for most Protestants.

I guess we can all imply what the Bible says then.
 
I have listened to many of Scott Hahns (hope he is recovering well) stuff and everything in the Bible is about Mass and the Eucharist…
While I don’t think Scott Hahn is the end all of interpretation, I do think he is on to something very apropos when he interprets the bible in light of the Eucharist. Pope Benedict the XVI has long been a proponent of a Christological Hermeneutic. The Bible for us as Christians is indeed opened up to a milieu of understanding when we look at it in light of the incarnation of Christ. If the Eucharist is indeed what we believe it to be, that is the body, blood and divinity of our Savior and Lord Jesus Christ, then it is indeed the key to understanding the scriptures. Just as on the road to Emmaus Jesus opened the scriptures for his two companions and expounded upon how they all pointed to him, so too do we as Christians look for that opening and see how that all of scripture points to Jesus Christ, and hence the Eucharist.

The book of Revelation itself says that only Jesus is able to open the scroll. That in and of itself points to using Jesus and the Eucharist that he instituted in understanding the contents of that scroll. So even to understand Hebrews 10:26, we need to not only understand all of the book of Hebrews, but the entirety of scripture. We do that through the revelation that God has given us through his church, that revelation finds it’s culmination in the Eucharist.
 
Don’t get me wrong, the offering of the Eucharist has always been the ma(name removed by moderator)oint of Mass, and that yes indeed it is the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ,

but you do have to admit the wording they use can surely be up for debate of what the sacrifice is, which is why other people think its re-sacrificeing Jesus evey week, just reading it made me think that.

I am still not sure what our sacrifice is, our worship? that should not be a sacrifice,
the hosts are they our sacrifice? what is our sacrifice, and what is the sacrifice they talk about in the wording. it is very confusing, I think even maybe you can admit that, unless you understand it better. 🙂
 
I don’t find it confusing, but maybe you should start another topic about it and include the very wording that you are having trouble with?
 
Ha Ha, No I wont start another thread, it probably is easier for you as your learning alot now, and my cathechism was years ago and not too indept. Back then we just believed what we were taught to, so I’ll just leave it at that. Too much thought and in dept reasoning just makes things too well earthy (brainy) and not as much spiritual, I will just leave it as faith and belief.🙂
 
Christ offers his blood and body as a sacrifice up to God the father at each Catholic mass for the atonement of our sins.

“O Jesus Christ, eternal son of god, come into our lives each day, and trace out for us a path that we are to follow. Aid us in communication; may you be upon our lips and fingertips at all times. Amen.”
 
What’s really interesting is to see how Paul uses the customs, language and circumstances of his audience as opportunities to teach.

***Although I am free in regard to all, I have made myself a slave to all so as to win over as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew ***to win over Jews; to those under the law I became like one under the law—though I myself am not under the law—to win over those under the law. To those outside the law I became like one outside the law—though I am not outside God’s law but within the law of Christ—to win over those outside the law. To the weak I became weak, to win over the weak. I have become all things to all, to save at least some.All this I do for the sake of the gospel, so that I too may have a share in it. (1 Corinthians 9:19-23)

It is fascinating to see this in action. Paul meets each audience right where they are, becoming part of that audience and teaching from the perspective of that audience. A perfect example is his letter to the Phillipians.

Phillipi was a city named after Phillip the Great, father of Alexander the Great. Both were great military leaders, and the city was named after the elder because it was basically a Roman military retirement community. The people there, many of whom had a career in the Roman military, carried the skills and virtues they leaned in the Roman army into their civilian lives. They were orderly, loyal, obedient, fearless in the face of obstacles, worked as a team for the common good and endured hardship when it was for a worthy cause.

The Christians in the city of Phillipi Christianized these virtues, and Paul loved them. Paul visited Phillipi on all three of his missionary journeys. Knowing the military background, see if these passages don’t make sense:

…you who are all partners with me in grace, both in my imprisonment and in the defense and confirmation of the gospel. (Phillipians 1:7)

My eager expectation and hope is that I shall not be put to shame in any way, but that with all boldness, now as always, Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death. (Phillipians 1:20)

***Only, conduct yourselves in a way worthy ***of the gospel of Christ, so that, whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear news of you, that you are standing firm in one spirit, with one mind struggling together for the faith of the gospel, not intimidated in any way by your opponents. This is proof to them of destruction, but of your salvation. And this is God’s doing. (Phillipians 1:27-28)

Paul speaks in military language here. He speak of a partnership of defense. He speaks of boldness in battle, stating that it does not matter if he lives or dies as long as the goal is accomplished, that of spreading the Gospel. Paul tells them to stand firm, to struggle together, to have one purpose and one mind, and not to be intimidated by opponents.Again, this is clear military language, something that those in a Roman military community would have understood and took to readily. These passages are only the first chapter! It goes on from there.

Paul does become all things to all people. He even tries to become a Greek, and begins speaking to the Greeks as if he was a philosopher in Acts 17. The Greeks loved to debate and hear of new ideas and such…

***They took him and led him to the Areopagus and said, “May we learn what this new teaching is that you speak of? For you bring some strange notions to our ears; we should like to know what these things mean.” Now all the Athenians as well as the foreigners residing there used their time for nothing else but telling or hearing something new. Then Paul stood up at the Areopagus and said: “You Athenians, I see that in every respect you are very religious.” ***(Acts 17:19-22)

Paul goes on to talk about God saying, 'In him we live and move and have our being," (cf Acts 17:28). They listen to him, hear what he has to say, but then he blows it.

When they heard about resurrection of the dead, some began to scoff, but others said, "We should like to hear you on this some other time." (Acts 17:32)

Paul took it too far. The Greeks were interested in what he had to say but he started talking about the ressurection of the dead and they were not ready for that. They were listening to what he had to say but when he talked about rising from the dead the Greeks were like, “Rising from the dead, huh? Yea… Catch ya tomorrow dude!” and they left. They thought he was crazy. I find this part of the story hilarious. The Greeks were like, “We’re out of here!”

But what we get from it is that Paul learned how to evangelize. He learned to “Become all things to all people” and to not take it too far. He leaned how to meet people right where they were, to speak to Jews as a Jew, to Romans as Romans, to Greeks as Greeks and to soldiers as a fellow soldier.

That’s why we have to always look at the audience to which Paul was writing, and know the context, who they were and how they lived and some of the background. That’s part of the literal sense of scripture. We have to get the literal sense of scripture first - what do the words on the page say - and part of getting the literal sense of scripture is knowing the context. Then we can go on the spiritual sense of scripture.

-Tim-
Wow! You’re very knowledgable!! Are you a priest?
 
I dont know how to reconcile this with the knowledge that we celebrate Eucharist as a sacrifice during present day Catholic mass.
Luvtosew;8884996:
Thanks Tantum for the info.

ChrAug- Your not alone. Sounds like re-sacrificing to me.
It is not a different sacrifice from that which Christ acomplished on the cross. It is the same sacrifice.

For Christ also died for sins once for all, the righteous for the unrighteous… ()1 Peter 3:18)

Christ died once. Christ does not die again on the altar.

The priest makes Christ present sacramentally on the altar. It is the same Christ who gave his body and blood to us in the Eucharist. It is the same Christ who hung on the cross and died there for us. It is the same Christ who was placed in the tomb - and this is important - it is the same Christ who rose from the dead and ascended to heaven to sit with God the Father.

That same Christ is made present on the altar. It is Jesus. It is Christ. It is the Lord. And priest re-presents Christ - suffered, broken, died, buried and risen from the dead - to God the Father. The priest re-presents all of that to God.

The priest even calls it a “Holy and living sacrifice.” It is living because it is the same sacrifice, not another different sacrifice or a re-sacrifice, but a re-presentation of the whole Christ - sacrificd and risen - to God the Father. It’s living because Christ lives, because Christ rose from the dead.

-Tim-
 
Simply, the comment “If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins” is about apostasy-that is to reject Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross for our sin. The Greek term is the idea that we deliberately and intentionally, on a habitual (recurring) permanent basis reject Jesus. What else is left but God’s judgment? Christ died once for our sin and if we reject Him, there is no other.

Further more, as Catholics we believe through the Sacrament of Reconciliation we can reestablish our broken relationship with God through a sincere and contrite heart. But that takes acknowledgement of Jesus and His forgiveness via the cross. And that means that we have not permanently rejected Him. We must be careful that if we sin continually, in a serious manner that we run the risk of not seeking repentance before death. As soon as we sin we need to pray for forgiveness and seek the Sacrament as soon as possible. And we must make a sincere effort not to sin again.
 
I am still not sure what our sacrifice is, our worship? that should not be a sacrifice,
the hosts are they our sacrifice? what is our sacrifice, and what is the sacrifice they talk about in the wording. it is very confusing, I think even maybe you can admit that, unless you understand it better.
Luv2sew:

We enter into this one holy sacrifice of Christ on the Cross. St Paul says: “Offer your bodies as a living sacrifice holy and acceptable to God” Romans 12:1 We do this in the Mass.

Our offering is ourselves and all God has given us including the bread and wine.
In the words of the Mass we pray with the priest who is in the person of Christ:

"Blessed are you Lord God of all creation, for through your goodness we have received the bread we offer you: fruit of earth and work of human hands, it will become for us the bread of life. Blessed be God forever.

Blessed are you, Lord God of all creation, for through your goodness we have received the wine we offer you: fruit of the vine and work of human hands, it will become our spiritual drink."

This is our participation. God allows and wants our participation in His one holy Sacrifice, so he makes it present for us. This is how we can draw near to Him and is our spiritual nourishment. We give back to God all that is His. It’s our offering. It is our thanksgiving. At the same time it is His real un-bloody sacrifice on Calvary. We participate in it.
 
Cathryn,
Thank you, you explained it in a very simple way to understand, and I appreciate that.😉
 
Simply, the comment “If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins” is about apostasy-that is to reject Jesus Christ and His sacrifice on the cross for our sin. The Greek term is the idea that we deliberately and intentionally, on a habitual (recurring) permanent basis reject Jesus. What else is left but God’s judgment? Christ died once for our sin and if we reject Him, there is no other.

Further more, as Catholics we believe through the Sacrament of Reconciliation we can reestablish our broken relationship with God through a sincere and contrite heart. But that takes acknowledgement of Jesus and His forgiveness via the cross. And that means that we have not permanently rejected Him. We must be careful that if we sin continually, in a serious manner that we run the risk of not seeking repentance before death. As soon as we sin we need to pray for forgiveness and seek the Sacrament as soon as possible. And we must make a sincere effort not to sin again.
Thank you!!! This makes it very clear.
 
Eucharist means “Thanksgiving” so what is the sacrifice placed under the altar at

Mass but our own tithe to to God.

I think the simpler God keeps it the easier itis for us to accept his will.

“Love the Lord God with all your heart, mind and soul, and love your neighbor as yourself”

If everyone did this or either just followed the love your neighbor what a world it would be!
 
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