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I was somehow disturbed reading the post on “very ver few are saved,most of us are going to hell”…But then i remembered how God loves us very much till He gives His only Son,Jesus.That soothe me a bit.But im still quite disturbed

Is it really forever a soul burn in the flames of Hell?

Because I heard,HEARD(might not be true),that a soul going to hell has a choice between

1.choosing to be one of satan’s devils,and not go through the fires of hell:eek:

2.choosing to suffer in hell,then after a very very very long time of suffering, that soul is able to go into Heaven.🤷

Im just curious about choice number 2:confused:.

God bless you in this ordinary time.
May we all repent from our sins and do good fueled by our faith and love in Jesus.Amen.:signofcross:
 
Yes, hell is eternal and there is no escape - ever.

Devils are fallen angels, an entirely different sort of being from humans.

There is no choice of becoming a devil and thereby escaping the eternal punishment of hell. It is eternal punishment for devils as well for their rebellion against God. Hell was made for them in the first place.

Heaven is also eternal and the joys that await us there are beyond all description.

Although the fear of hell rightly terrifies us, remember that God is a God of Love and Mercy who always stretches out His hand for His children. He is always there, ready to forgive and bring the sinner back from the brink. God in His wisdom gave us Confession to restore our relationship with Him when we sin. It behooves us to do an examination of conscience every night to examine everything we have done that day, either good, bad or indifferent. In this way, we learn what our weaknesses and failings are, and also when we have succeeded in conforming ourselves to God’s will. Learning what our weaknesses are helps us to combat them. Frequent reception of the Sacraments helps us to come to God out of love for Him rather than out of fear of hell.

This ability to return to God is only available to us so long as we live. When we die, whatever state our souls were in at the time of our death will determine our eternal fate, grace or mortal sin, heaven or hell.

Always keep your eyes on Jesus. Read the Catechism and the Bible. Go to Mass as often as you can and always try to keep yourself in a state of grace. Put your Trust in God. Pray often:
Sacred Heart of Jesus, I trust in You.
Sacred Heart of Jesus, I believe in Your Love for me.
Sacred Heart of Jesus, make my heart like Your Heart.
 
Hell is definitely eternal, although be careful not to think of eternity within the limits of time - or a very very very long time. Once we die we leave time behind. Hell is therefore a state of being.

I don’t think it is very helpful for people to speculate on the numbers of people in hell. Although Jesus did give us the analogy of the narrow path to heaven and the wide road to hell (Matt. 7.13-14), as Catholics we are required to believe that hell is real, and there is the real and present danger of souls ending up in hell.

But I would urge you to remember the story of Lucifer’s fall. Lucifer was an angel so had an intellect much higher than ours. When he rebelled against he KNEW that his end would be an eternity in hell - and yet he rebelled anyway. This is the mystery of pride. There is no reason to think that a person who in this life culpably and knowingly refuses to follow Christ when he speaks through his Church in this life will be any different when he faces Christ after death. Christ doesn’t cast people into hell, they cast themselves there by their refusal to serve; that is Lucifer’s cry “I will not serve”.

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Rather than becoming fearful in listening to those who say such gloomy things, be encouraged by Jesus.
And since Jesus is the very Person who will judge all of us, I think we have to accept His criteria for who may be saved! His criteria is salvation depends upon our practical charity towards other people, which He regards as charity directly given to Him
I am sometimes sad that there is sometimes less emphasis placed on Jesus’ words than should be placed on the words of the saviour of the human race who is God’s Son, who is God as well as human. Jesus is the source of salvation and the foundation of the Church. Can we call ourself Christians if we don’t accept the words of Jesus the Christ?

Matthew 25 verses 31-46…Jesus’ words on who will be saved:
“The Last Judgement”
"When the Son of Man comes in all His glory, escorted by all the angels, then he will take his seat on his throne of glory. All the nations will be assembled before him and he will separate men from one another as the shepherd separates sheep from goats.

He will place the sheep on his right hand and the goats on his left. then the King shall say to those on his right hand," Come you whom my Father has blessed, take for your heritage the kingdom prepared for you since the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food; I was a stranger and you made me welcome. I was thirsty and you gave me drink; naked and you clothed me; sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me.

Then the virtuous will say to him in reply, "Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you; or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you hungry and feed you; or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome; naked and clothe you; sick or in prison and go to see you?

And the King will answer, " I tell you solemnly, in so far as you did this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me."

Next he will say to those on his left “Go away from me with your curse upon you, to the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels, for when I was hungry you never gave me food; I was thirsty and you never gave me anything to drink; I was a stranger and you never made me welcome, naked and you never clothed me, sick and in prison and you never visited me.”
Then it will be their turn to ask, “Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty; a stranger or naked, sick or in prison, and not come to your help?”
Then he will answer, “I tell you solemnly, in so far as you neglected to do this to one of the least of these, you neglected to do it to me.” And they will go away to eternal punishment, and the virtuous to eternal life."

Be charitable and kind to others, and be faithful to the Sacraments, and trust in God

The options you have heard suggested don’t fit in with Jesus’ description.
 
BintuluChuchGuy said:
I was somehow disturbed reading the post on “very ver few are saved,most of us are going to hell”…But then i remembered how God loves us very much till He gives His only Son,Jesus.That soothe me a bit.But im still quite disturbed

Is it really forever a soul burn in the flames of Hell?

Because I heard,HEARD(might not be true),that a soul going to hell has a choice between

1.choosing to be one of satan’s devils,and not go through the fires of hell:eek:

2.choosing to suffer in hell,then after a very very very long time of suffering, that soul is able to go into Heaven.🤷

Im just curious about choice number 2:confused:.

God bless you in this ordinary time.
May we all repent from our sins and do good fueled by our faith and love in Jesus.Amen.:signofcross:
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Yes God Loves us. This is not in question. What is in question is whether we Love God.
Jesus told us that the road to salvation is narrow and that few find it, while the road to damnation is wide and that many follow it.
The road to Salvation is built upon the two great Commandments - Love of God and Love of fellow man. It is built upon th eperson of Jesus Christ and it is He who is our Guide.
Live in Him - Love God and neighbor - Seek the narrow way in Love and all will be well.

Those who go to hell do so because they do NOT love God. They do not go because God chooses this, they go because They choose it. Thus it is that God, in His infinite Mercy gives them exactly whatthey choose.

As for souls getting out of hell at some point, I know of no such church teaching, so I would not count on it.

Aim for heaven and if you miss, you’ll land in purgatory. Aim for purgatory and miss and you will land in…:eek:

Peace
James
 
Much of the fear comes from the fact that we hold up only the most virtuously-lived lives as examples of who gets to enjoy heaven. We know the Saints are there, and we never definitely proclaim anyone short of Satan IN hell because we cannot know their state of repentance or grace at death. So we have 1 definitely in hell, many definitely in heaven, and the rest of us fall somewhere in between. History of the NT shows that every time man thought he had God figured out, it turned out not to be so, as illustrated by Jesus correcting many and revealing new things we did not know about God. Who is to say we are any more enlightened now than we were in 50 AD? All we have is His promise - which is substantial - and the Church to teach us the way to achieve that promised salvation. IF the Church is wrong, we are toast; IF they are right, we have some kind of assurance and the rest is up to us.
 
BintuluChuchGuy said:
Is it really forever a soul burn in the flames of Hell?
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First, let’s clarify what hell really is. Hell is deliberately refusing or rejecting God’s love and mercy. And yes, it continues as long as one doesn’t repent.
BintuluChuchGuy said:
Because I heard,HEARD(might not be true),that a soul going to hell has a choice between

1.choosing to be one of satan’s devils,and not go through the fires of hell:eek:

2.choosing to suffer in hell,then after a very very very long time of suffering, that soul is able to go into Heaven.🤷
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Both of these are nonsense.

1.a. You cannot change your nature. You are a human, not an angel.
1.b. Satan and the other rebellious angels do suffer hell. Eternally. They deliberately reject God’s love.
  1. There are no repentant people in hell, but there is also no evidence that anyone repents after death. Therefore we should never put off repentance.
 
I recommend reading “The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life” by Fr. Charles Arminjon

This is a series of conferences (I think we’d call them seminars) which Fr. Arminjon (1824-1885) gave on the End of the World, Hell and Heaven based on what is said in the Bible and what the Early Church Fathers taught. He does not use any private revelations for his source material. St. Teresa of Lisieux said that reading this book was one of the greatest graces of her life. Although it isn’t easy reading, I do think it well worthwhile.
 
Just another quick thought, based on a talk I listened to by the late Bishop Sheen; A person who doesn’t love God would suffer much more in heaven than in hell.

There is an excellent talk (availabe at bringyou.to/SheenLast.mp3) in which he deals with Purgatory, Heaven and Hell - the last 30 mins or so deal with hell. I think this would really help anyone trying to understand this topic.
 
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