Here we go slippery Slope!

[Lisa4Catholics]

theempirejournal.com/070405_Hearsay_law_Florida.html
Monday, July 04, 2005

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**New Florida Hearsay Evidence Law Adversely Affects Disabled …

If you suddenly become incapacitated, cannot speak for yourself and have left no written declarations pertaining to your medical treatment, Florida legislators and Gov. Jeb Bush have made it law that a family member or even a friend can decide to end your life, saying that they remember you saying that you wouldn’t want to be kept alive.

In fact, even your estranged spouse by whom you may have been a victim of domestic abuse and violence could decide to end your life by claiming you told him or her that you wouldn’t want to live if incapacitated.

Florida lawmakers have quietly effected a change to the law affecting vulnerable persons—the elderly and disabled adults in the state, potentially affecting every person in the state of Florida.

Effective July 1, Florida’s Evidence Code has been modified in such a way that hearsay testimony of an incapacitated person’s oral declarations from potentially conflicted guardians, beneficiaries or heirs at law is now admissible in a court of law.

 

[Kay_Cee]

What a great way to murder your spouse and get away with it!

All you have to do is put your “loved one” into a coma for a while and the state will kill him for you!

Is this a great country or what?

 

[Mom_of_one]

Kay Cee:

What a great way to murder your spouse and get away with it!

All you have to do is put your “loved one” into a coma for a while and the state will kill him for you!

Is this a great country or what?

Sure saves on divorce lawyer’s fees.

 

[WanderAimlessly]

Momofone:

Sure saves on divorce lawyer’s fees.

But just remember, there are no lawyers in Heaven. God is judge, jury, and executioner.

PF

 

[David_Paul]

This is the opposite of what I understood the state legislators were going to do. Any comments by the sponsors explaining the bill?

 

[abcdefg]

Florida legislators and Gov. Jeb Bush have made it law

I’m still waiting to see Jeb Bush’s role in this. I tend to think he’s more of an unwilling partner rather than an active proponent.

 

[Jennifer123]

Oh my goodness, I’m just speechless really.

I can’t imagine it’s any easier putting down a pet for pete’s sake, you have to sign a contract to get a stupid cel phone but a person’s LIFE can be snuffed by literal hearsay evidence. Not only from a family member but from “friends”. I can’t even imagine how one’s “friendship” is going to be determined by the courts.

What a country indeed. I would like to think this could harm Jeb’s ambitions to higher office, but I feel people like us would be shouting into the wind.

 

[abcdefg]

Jeb Bush is a little too soft on this issue even if he doesn’t push for the deal. this will hurt him if he runs for president in the future.

 

[David_Paul]

Is everyone 100% certain this law liberalizes euthanasia as this article indicates?

Just asking, I don’t know.

Could there be something in the bill would have allowed Terri’s parents to determine her care? Or something else which would mean the bill doesn’t do what it appears to do.

This is so contrary to what my state reps were saying it is difficult to believe there isn’t some angle being missed.

Despite what we saw with Terri, the promoters of euthanasia are not the dominate force in Florida.

 

[Lisa4Catholics]

David_Paul:

Is everyone 100% certain this law liberalizes euthanasia as this article indicates?

Just asking, I don’t know.

Could there be something in the bill would have allowed Terri’s parents to determine her care? Or something else which would mean the bill doesn’t do what it appears to do.

This is so contrary to what my state reps were saying it is difficult to believe there isn’t some angle being missed.

Despite what we saw with Terri, the promoters of euthanasia are not the dominate force in Florida.

I don’t know David,is there any way we can read the law ourselves?If the out of control courts use it the way it sounds they will just dismiss life witnesses,they did that to Terri(GREER):nope: flsenate.gov/session/index.cfm?BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&Mode=Bills&SubMenu=1&Year=2005&billnum=0523

 

[davy39]

Kay Cee:

What a great way to murder your spouse and get away with it!

All you have to do is put your “loved one” into a coma for a while and the state will kill him for you!

Is this a great country or what?

Yes, what a great country, and what a great state. The “sunshine” state, I believe. The culture of death is alive and well.

 

[David_Paul]

Lisa4Catholics:

I don’t know David,is there any way we can read the law ourselves?If the out of control courts use it the way it sounds they will just dismiss life witnesses,they did that to Terri(GREER):nope:

I’ll look around and call my rep tommorow. The thing is, if this bill was in the works or a response to Terri, passing it now was the worst thing they could have done.

Where is the benefit? I’ve heard of no clamor for the law to be changed to liberalize euthanasia. But maybe I missed it. Probably not however as I live on the southeast coast–the most liberal part of the state where supporting the Culture of Death is mainstream.

btw…Jeb Bush reads emails. He actually does want imput. I know one person he emailed to ask for advice on an unrelated issue after she, a teacher, had written to him about schools.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

davy39:

Yes, what a great country, and what a great state. The “sunshine” state, I believe. The culture of death is alive and well.

I’ve just come up with a theory on how to interpret mission statements and slogans of large bureacratic entities.

Figure whatever they are trying to sell you, it is to cover for the opposite.

The “sunshine” state, then calls itself that to hide its propensity to be the “darkness” state.

Another example is “customer satisfaction is always job 1”, meaning we supply customer service rhetoric to get you to buy stuff and mask the reality that customer service only matters to the degree we believe it makes a profit.

Same sort of thing with “our people are our most important asset.” The means that for maximum productivity and profits, that our people must be properly branwashed into thinking we have some sort of commitment to them.

Pretty much whatever any bureacracy says, I always consider the near opposite might be at least as true.

The government: “of the people, by the people, and for the people” really means “of the elites, by the misled people, and for the utilization of people to amass power and wealth for the elites.”

Alan