Hersey and Chastity

[Rau]

Ashes to Ashes - most here will disagree with me (as usual), but you are just fine with your beliefs. In order to be fully human and fully Catholic, each of us need to formulate our own conscience. I am in disagreement with two of the social dogmas held by the Church - the ban on ABC and viewing LGBTQ humans as disordered. I have spoken with several priests about my concerns and was advised that I am in the same boat as most Western Catholics. In some regards, I am very lucky since I am 62 and ABC is not a hot button issue for me! I laugh when some try to use verbal acrobatics to proclaim that NFP is not contraception. As far as LGBTQ issues are concerned, I taught High school for 35 years and have witnessed, first hand, the pain and horror that deeming gay young people intrinsically disordered and not natural has caused. Once again, I’m not gay, but I will always support non-discrimination policies for all, gay, straight, black, Brown, Catholic, Hindu or Vulcan.
Welcome to CAF, and please don’t hesitate to share your feelings. As I said before, most posters here disagree with my progressive views, but are charitable. God Bless you!

No person is called intrinsically disordered other than by those spreading misinformation. The Church labels acts imtrinsically disordered such as: any lying, calumny, fornication, same sex sexual acts, abortion, murder. The term means an act which is “always wrong to choose”.

 

[Dorothy]

No person is called intrinsically disordered other than by those spreading misinformation. The Church labels acts imtrinsically disordered such as: any lying, calumny, fornication, same sex sexual acts, abortion, murder. The term means an act which is “always wrong to choose”.

Amen!

We are to line up our consciences with what Christ teaches through the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.

The Church is holy because Christ is holy!

All things are possible with God.

 

[afthomercy]

In order to be fully human and fully Catholic, each of us need to formulate our own conscience. I am in disagreement with two of the social dogmas held by the Church…

You can’t be “fully Catholic” while remaining in ‘voluntary disagreement’ (refer post#15 on pg.1) with the teachings of the Church. Since the Church is infallible on matters of faith and morals, the proper formation of conscience cannot not take a path that is diametrically opposed to its teachings.

 

[AshestoAshes]

Just to be sure, by not fully accepting the church’s teaching on homosexuality, I will go to hell and cannot take communion?

 

[Rau]

Just to be sure, by not fully accepting the church’s teaching on homosexuality, I will go to hell and cannot take communion?

As explained earlier, having involuntary doubt is not sinful. Deliberately taking a stance opposing Church teaching is sinful.

You have been given ample rational basis to form a view about the fact of and basis for the Church’s teaching on homosexuality. Do you see some flaw in what has been presented in regard to Scripture, Church Teaching or the natural design of male and female?