Hijab

[Booklover]

I posted this in another thread. I’m not sure if our OP will return to the conversation, so here is my final reply.

Nuns are women dedicated to God and “married” to God/Church/Christ.

They have** no worldly possessions, no husbands**, no house on the beach or county, the majority of them live in convents or monasteries, they have no children, and devote their life to humanity and good deeds, fasting, praying and helping the needy.

Their garments are to separate them from the rest of the society, showing people that they are "Nuns", women doing God’s Work.

Their “habit” is theirs. I know Nuns who dress to the fullest, and I know Sisters who dress otherwise.

I was just reading about a muslim member posting a question/post about hijab and twisting the post/reply to and Nuns in “short skirts” or something of that sort.

Muslims have been arguing about Christian Nuns and their wardrobe. They try to justify it to muslim women who cover up due to islam and their codes of dressing.

Not the same.

If muslim women who cover up in burka, hijab or niquab <–(spelling) compare themselves to Christian nuns, well then, they better stop getting married to men and pumping out babies because that is not what Christian nuns do.

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Thanks for reposting this again, Pam! It’s excellent!

Vickie

 

[Booklover]

This is a very good point!
And it relates, I think, to what I am saying about Mennonites & the Amish…Their dress is very much like what was worn, say, a hundred years ago (Amish) or 60 or 70 years ago (for Conservative Mennonites). But it is American/European. (Laura Ingalls Wilder’s family dressed not unl;ike today’s Amish).
Yes, it is distinctive. But it is a dress that is very simple & very modest. But it would not meet the requirements for Muslim women’s dress; not because it is in any sense immodest, but because it is not Arab in origin.
And it does not draw undue attention to the wearer. (Except, when a whole vanload of Amish arrive at the public library en masse…That can be attention getting, but in the nicest way. Like, you know: "Wow, how did they get here? Oh, a nice man drove them in a van).

And they also don’t expect or want to force others do dress the way they do.

Vickie

 

[Booklover]

From my point of view, the Hijab is the culture of the Arab. Why impose such culture to others as if it’s a universal truth? In Indonesia I’ve seen the decline of our own beautiful rich varied ethnic/cultural fashions, they all might perhaps end up in museum due to this. With this being imposed by the Muslim, it seems that they really want to have a uniform submission.
They really can’t go along with rich cultural backgrounds of diversity. I can’t see the beauty of Japan kimono with this, or any other culture.

Oh No…!

That’s why they destroy churches, statues of Buddha and Hindu temples for instance.

Vickie

 

[Sister_Amy]

Is there something unholy about a woman doing womanly things like getting married and getting pregnant?

 

[Ruthie]

…isn’t your concern political rather than religious? That is to say, that some governments choose to force religious standards? Don’t some Christians advocate for the same?

It’s not that easy. The difference is between governing by religious principles and creating a theocracy. Where do you draw the line?

I think the best society is one based both on Christian and small-r republican principles. I think that the increase in crime, pornography, and incivility in this country is related to forbidding the schools to teach the Commandments, and forbidding the courthouses to display them. I wish we could at least bring back the ones that don’t mention God. They are a darn good set of principles - and I bet our Muslim friends would agree. Even atheists would agree.

Yes, there have been governments that tried to enforce their particular form of Christianity on their people. That’s wrong. Just as wrong as governments that force their people to live by the Quran. There is only one place for theocracy, and that is in small enclaves like the Vatican. I wish the Muslims would set up their own Magisterium in Mecca!

Ruthie
To live by “an eye for an eye” is to make everyone blind.