Holy Day of Obligation and Seventh Game of World Series

[Hereiam]

I was absolutely amazed how large the crowd was at the noon mass at our Parish today…typically its about 100 people, today it had to be about 700…standing room only in a 119 year old historic mission.

I must admit, rather than the “main” celebratory Mass for the Solemnity of All Saints tonight at 7pm, I opted to go at noon so I could catch game 7 of the world series live, tonight…then it dawned on me, that might have been the reason for the huge turn out at noon.

Did any of you do the same? Are any of you feeling a little self-righteous indignation that you would like to vent? I expect a little of the former, and a lot of the later…but I can take it…bring it on!

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

I hate sports.
However, you did the right thing and went to Mass. Full stop.

 

[JHC]

Just now found out holy day and it’s 5 pm. I’m in Houston… I really wish they would remind us Sunday prior.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Not surprised at all. On SuperBowl Sunday our parish moves the Sunday Night mass from 7pm to 5pm. There’s a few who move their 6pm Sunday Mass to 4pm Sunday that weekend.

To me, it was a stupid inconvenience since I didn’t care about sports, but the priest was often happy so that made it nice.

 

[BroIgnatius]

JHC:

There are certain Holy Days of Obligation that on the same day each year. The Solemnity of All Saints Day is one of them.

There are other Holy Days of Obligation that land during the week and are transferred to Sunday.

Ask your parish for a list.

 

[anna]

There is nothing wrong in admitting that one went to Mass early so they could watch the world series. Now did I plan ahead to go early, put the klds down early and relax, I;m not saying . By the way nothing could top last years series, it was great. God Bless:butterfly:

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

JHC:

There are certain Holy Days of Obligation that on the same day each year. The Solemnity of All Saints Day is one of them.

There are other Holy Days of Obligation that land during the week and are transferred to Sunday.

Ask your parish for a list.

I love this quote from my brother about my mom’s birthday (the 1st of the month)

“Mom, the problem with the first of the month is that it comes SO quickly after the end of the one before.”

Sometimes, even annual things are hard to remember. And then you add in the Saturday/Sunday/Monday deal of moving HDO’s around it can get really confusing.

 

[JHC]

And add in first World Series win in team’s 56 year existence… halloween… a lot going on. The days move around etc. Not much I could have done anyway unless missed work. Feel like we will lose if I skip and couldn’t enjoy win ha. Game So stressful anyway. Is it ok if I just pray for Astros whole time?

 

[Tis_Bearself]

I did the 6:45 am. I am not watching the World Series because the Indians aren’t in it, so I’m going again at 7 pm because I need a second Holy Communion today.

 

[Roseeurekacross]

I must mention for Australians,

This holy day has been transferred to Sunday.

We have Two holy days that might fall on week days.

 

[BroIgnatius]

BroIgnatius:

JHC:

There are certain Holy Days of Obligation that on the same day each year. The Solemnity of All Saints Day is one of them.

There are other Holy Days of Obligation that land during the week and are transferred to Sunday.

Ask your parish for a list.

I love this quote from my brother about my mom’s birthday (the 1st of the month)

“Mom, the problem with the first of the month is that it comes SO quickly after the end of the one before.”

Sometimes, even annual things are hard to remember. And then you add in the Saturday/Sunday/Monday deal of moving HDO’s around it can get really confusing.

Funny. But, unless one is in a cave, I think Halloween will be noticed. Next day All Saints.

The movable holy days are confusing, but that is a result of the U.S. tendency to not take time for God. I practice the holy days on the days they fall, rather on the wuzz calendar where they are moved to Sunday and no one really notices them.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

The movable holy days are confusing, but that is a result of the U.S. tendency to not take time for God. I

I understand why they do it, but since I spend a lot of time in dioceses where they don’t move the days much and yet the churches are quite full, I sometimes wonder just what is going on with the rest of the USA.

 

[BroIgnatius]

Yes, it is not needed. Much of the world does not do it. Canada, I think, is down to only one holy day not on Sunday. Look at the reduction of faith there. what is going on is bishops unwilling to lead and take a stand.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

Funny. But, unless one is in a cave, I think Halloween will be noticed. Next day All Saints.

The movable holy days are confusing, but that is a result of the U.S. tendency to not take time for God. I practice the holy days on the days they fall, rather on the wuzz calendar where they are moved to Sunday and no one really notices them.

Going to Mass no matter if the feast day is all very well and good for you, who are a brother, but it is much more complicated than a “US tendency not to make time for God”.

In many areas, mine included, churches don’t make it easy…offering Masses during work hours or impossible to get to with a commute…to which the church responds "if you really care you’d make it a priority.

Which, honestly, isn’t helpful for anyone and basically amounts to a situation where Holy Days are sacraments held hostage to those without the means or ability to shift their work schedule around.

 

[BroIgnatius]

That is problem solved by the pastor or the bishop. As I said, no guts to lead and take a stand. Which is about lack of devotion as a culture.

 

[BroIgnatius]

At least a Mass was available for those who wanted to watch whatever game that was. That is good.

 

[Xanthippe_Voorhees]

That is problem solved by the pastor or the bishop. As I said, no guts to lead and take a stand.

And every year people get the same response “well if it really mattered, you’d make time” and then throw out an example of getting married or going to a concert or other thing, completely ignoring the actual issue.

It is NOT as easy as you make it out to be. Today, I was lucky. I made it to Mass. My husband planned to go but got held up by work and then had to take several detours to get home because of the storms in New England. (pray for those still without power–we were out for 42 hours). By the time he got home it was too late to go back through the crazy traffic in the opposite direction and make it to Mass…because every last Mass in our area was at 7pm. Since there were none before work—this was his only chance.

The idea that HDO’s are simply a matter of caring enough is one based in privilage.

 

[BroIgnatius]

I did not say it is easy, but if if matters to people, a letter writing campaign to the Bishop may help.

For those who cannot get to Mass on a holy day, they can buy Magificat magazine, or The Divine Office, if they can afford it, or to the Little Office of the Blessed Virgin Mary, and participate in the Holy Day that way, along with a spiritual communion. Doing this bypasses work schedules and such. Or to the Missal itself.

 

[Hereiam]

Sorry. This thread seems to have been high jacked by a dissertation on the Liturgical Calendar…oh well.