Holy Day of Obligation - Ascention

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angelic06 said:
Lizanne,

If you can find a Maronite or a Byzantine Catholic parish near you, they will be serving the Divine Liturgy (Byzantine) or Qurbono (Maronite) proper to today.
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Many if not all Benedictine monasteries celebrate it on Thusday regardless of what happens in the diocese. I know that the case with the abbey I’m affiliated with. So if there’s a monastery near you that may be an option but there will likely be only one Mass.
 
I’ve got an interesting predicament, and my preliminary Google Fu is failing me…

My roommate and I live in San Francisco, where Ascension is transfered to this following Sunday. He, however, is currently in New York City and has been there since Wednesday, meaning that he was there, physically within the bounds of an ecclesiastical province which has not transferred the Solemnity. He will be back in SF by Saturday, so he will be able to assist at Mass then.

When we travel, and there is a difference of when an obligation to attend Mass falls on the calendar, are we bound by the rules of our home province or our host province? Was my roommate obligated to assist at Mass on Thursday?
 
xixxvmcm85 said:
I’ve got an interesting predicament, and my preliminary Google Fu is failing me…

My roommate and I live in San Francisco, where Ascension is transfered to this following Sunday. He, however, is currently in New York City and has been there since Wednesday, meaning that he was there, physically within the bounds of an ecclesiastical province which has not transferred the Solemnity. He will be back in SF by Saturday, so he will be able to assist at Mass then.

When we travel, and there is a difference of when an obligation to attend Mass falls on the calendar, are we bound by the rules of our home province or our host province? Was my roommate obligated to assist at Mass on Thursday?
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When travelling, I think you are typically under the rule of your own diocese. Travelers can only be expected to know the rules"back home," after all. Still, If you know the area you are traveling to has not transferred Ascension and can reasonably attend Mass, it is advantageous to do so.
 
xixxvmcm85 said:
I’ve got an interesting predicament, and my preliminary Google Fu is failing me…

My roommate and I live in San Francisco, where Ascension is transfered to this following Sunday. He, however, is currently in New York City and has been there since Wednesday, meaning that he was there, physically within the bounds of an ecclesiastical province which has not transferred the Solemnity. He will be back in SF by Saturday, so he will be able to assist at Mass then.

When we travel, and there is a difference of when an obligation to attend Mass falls on the calendar, are we bound by the rules of our home province or our host province? Was my roommate obligated to assist at Mass on Thursday?
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wdtprs.com/blog/2012/05/quaeritur-ascension-thursdaysunday-obligation-when-travelling-complicated/
 
OraLabora said:
Many if not all Benedictine monasteries celebrate it on Thusday regardless of what happens in the diocese. I know that the case with the abbey I’m affiliated with. So if there’s a monastery near you that may be an option but there will likely be only one Mass.
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I think the EF also uses the old calendar here.
 
xixxvmcm85 said:
When we travel, and there is a difference of when an obligation to attend Mass falls on the calendar, are we bound by the rules of our home province or our host province? Was my roommate obligated to assist at Mass on Thursday?
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Can. 12 §1. Universal laws bind everywhere all those for whom they were issued.

§2. All who are actually present in a certain territory, however, are exempted from universal laws which are not in force in that territory.

§3. Laws established for a particular territory bind those for whom they were issued as well as those who have a domicile or quasi-domicile there and who at the same time are actually residing there, without prejudice to the prescript of ⇒ can. 13.

Can. 13 §1. Particular laws are not presumed to be personal but territorial unless it is otherwise evident.

§2. Travelers are not bound:

1/ by the particular laws of their own territory as long as they are absent from it unless either the transgression of those laws causes harm in their own territory or the laws are personal;

2/ by the laws of the territory in which they are present, with the exception of those laws which provide for public order, which determine the formalities of acts, or which regard immovable goods located in the territory.

§3. Transients are bound by both universal and particular laws which are in force in the place where they are present.

Since the holy day is part of universal law, I would think the obligation applies.
 
devoutchristian said:
It’s a complicated situation. The Latin rite US bishops got permission from Rome to transfer the Ascension, but the permission did not actually transfer the Ascension, but allowed the Archbishops to transfer it for their ecclesiastical province, so I do believe that they get to make that decision in this case.
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I was wondering about that.

I’m wondering if it works the other way. If a the metropolitan bishop decides the province should transfer the observance of the Ascension to Sunday do all suffragen bishops have to observer the transfer or is an individual bishop allowed to have his diocese celebrate the Ascension on Thursday?
 
devoutchristian said:
It’s a complicated situation. The Latin rite US bishops got permission from Rome to transfer the Ascension, but the permission did not actually transfer the Ascension, but allowed the Archbishops to transfer it for their ecclesiastical province, so I do believe that they get to make that decision in this case.
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Do you have a reference for this? I’m certainly no expert on the subject, but it is my understanding that an Archbishop has only very limited authority over the other Bishops in his province, and it does not extend to issues of the liturgical calender. He has the authority to call a provincial council, at which such a decision could be made, but the authority to decide, of his own accord, whether the feast should be transferred in a diocese that is not his own, seems beyond the scope of an Archbishop.
 
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