Holy days question for catholics

[jjsmity]

Nothing is mandatory, but like Dorothy states these feasts and festivals are important and a part of the Christian faith and a Christian should have a desire to celebrate these days and to commemorate the birth, life, and resurrection of our Lord and the lives of past Christians. But no, in no way is celebration forced. No person has to celebrate a single holiday if they don’t want to, but a Christian should feel a desire to celebrate on these special days.

agreed.

 

[steve_b]

If the bible is full of specific details on how/when to celebrate holy days [Passover and such] why and were do all the catholic days come from? such as celebrating various saints days and catholic feast/fasting days that are not mentioned in the bible.

thanks

Sunday is a holy day of obligation. We are to celebrate the Eucharist. And it’s right out of scripture.

Heb 10:
23 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful; 24 and let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, 25not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. 26 For if we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27* but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries. 28* A man who has violated the law of Moses dies without mercy at the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29* How much worse punishment do you think will be deserved by the man who has spurned the Son of God, and profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and outraged the Spirit of grace?

one will notice

By deliberately failing to meet on Sunday (the Day) as is the habit of some

• it is already considered a grave sin
• there is no sacrifice for sins as a result of deliberately failing to meet on Sunday.
• one is profaning the blood of the covenant for failing to meet
• one spurns the son of God and outrages the **spirit of grace **for not meeting
• punishment for that person is a fearful prospect of judgement and a fury of fire because the person is considered an adversary of God for deliberately not meeting

And WHY is all THAT the case for deliberately missing mass on Sunday?

• what is the sacrifice for sin and blood of the covenant talked about when they meet? It’s the Eucharist. The summit of our faith. [Matthew 26:26-28 (Douay-Rheims Bible, Matthew Chapter 26). Jesus said it’s the Eucharist, the consecrated bread is His body, and the consecrated wine is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. Jesus the son of God said those words instituting the Eucharist. Jesus further describes the importance of the Eucharist for the soul. Jn 6:53 unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. Life of the soul is **grace. **THAT’s the Eucharist.

Therefore, the one who deliberately misses the Eucharist on Sunday, after being given the knowledge of truth,

• no sacrifice for sin is left for THEM
• they profane the blood of the covenant
• they spurn the son of God & outrage the spirit of grace
• judgment awaits them

That’s how important the Eucharist is, ergo the mass, and it is to be celebrated when we meet .

 

[zz912]

If the bible is full of specific details on how/when to celebrate holy days [Passover and such] why and were do all the catholic days come from? such as celebrating various saints days and catholic feast/fasting days that are not mentioned in the bible.

thanks

Specific feasts and holy days were spelled out in the Old Covenant, because they had no Church. Jesus built a Church to have authority over those matters until His return. It’s not spelled out in the New Testament because the Church will always be with us to protect us and instruct us about the faith.

 

[JRKH]

Specific feasts and holy days were spelled out in the Old Covenant, because they had no Church. Jesus built a Church to have authority over those matters until His return. It’s not spelled out in the New Testament because the Church will always be with us to protect us and instruct us about the faith.

I disagree with the comment that the OT had no church. This is simply not true. The Jews were certainly an ecclesial unit - a people set apart by God - a Church. That church had a hierarchy - and that hierarchy governed until Christ came the first time.
Christ Himself even supported the authority of the OT church leaders in Mt 23:1-3.

After Christ’s first coming, we do have a change in the ecclesia and in the structure…but it certainly does not translate to the OT not having a church…

Peace
James

 

[Mintaka]

Phil19034 said:

1. Dec 8th: The Immaculate Conception - celebrates immaculate Mary’s birth which prepared for the coming of our Savior.

Well, sorta. I mean, she had to be conceived in order to be born.

However, we actually celebrate her birthday on Sept. 8, which is of course nine months after December 8. The Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though.

That is your nitpick for the day! Great explanation, though!

 

[phil19034]

Phil19034 said:

Well, sorta. I mean, she had to be conceived in order to be born.

However, we actually celebrate her birthday on Sept. 8, which is of course nine months after December 8. The Nativity of the Blessed Virgin Mary is not a Holy Day of Obligation, though.

That is your nitpick for the day! Great explanation, though!

Thanks… .that was a typo. I should have said conception, not birth.

 

[zz912]

I disagree with the comment that the OT had no church. This is simply not true. The Jews were certainly an ecclesial unit - a people set apart by God - a Church. That church had a hierarchy - and that hierarchy governed until Christ came the first time.
Christ Himself even supported the authority of the OT church leaders in Mt 23:1-3.

After Christ’s first coming, we do have a change in the ecclesia and in the structure…but it certainly does not translate to the OT not having a church…

Peace
James

Jesus began building the Church at Pentecost. It didn’t exist before. Sure in the Old Covenant there was authority and structure, but it was not the Church. The Church has God Himself (the Holy Spirit) protecting the Church, which was not the case in the Old Covenant. Hence the need for religious feasts and celebrations to be spelled out in more detail in teh Old Covenant.