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I posted a little less than a week ago saying my boyfriend broke up with me and how we were going to try being friends for the sake of the youth group we help out with. Well the youth group went well yesterday but after mass we have our own youth group that we go to for high school. That’s when I started showing more emotions and he blew up on me when I got home saying that it made him look bad. I really did love him and I want him to forgive me. I’m really trying to forgive him. Idk how to handle this. I don’t think I am trusting God enough because I am so severely hurt. He went from a boy who thought I was amazing and always made it seem like he was so happy with me. Now its the opposite and he is making me feel worthless :’( I shouldn’t be feeling this way. And I do still care so much for him and I care for his soul. It just hurts… A lot. 😦
 
If you’re upset, you owe him no apologies. “I’m not doing this to make you look bad. I’m doing it because I’m really upset. I’m sorry if you don’t like it–it’s not my first choice, either. Frankly, you might stop and think why you’re more worried about how other people think than you are about how I feel, and exactly why I should make some false pretense my top priority. If this is what you mean by staying friends, I’m not sure I’m too wild about your idea of what a friend is. So far, I’m not terribly impressed.”

Yes, I mean that if he wants to be friends, he needs to act like a friend, and you do have room to point that out. So far, he’s failing, and that is not the fault of your lack of trust in God. He needs to be a bit more sensitive to how difficult this if for you. If he wants to be a model for his youth group, maybe he needs to think about that. The way he blew up at you isn’t anything I’d want another young man to imitate, how about you?

You’re going to feel a lot less worthless if you stop letting what he says dictate your worth. Your worth doesn’t depend on what comes out of his mouth. In that sense, try to lean on God a bit more. God made you his daughter, and that is why you are amazing. Try to lean on that. Still, being a good Christian does not mean letting your sisters and brothers treat you badly. “Love your neighbor as yourself” means that you should not let him treat you in a way that you’d not let him treat someone else that he broke up with. Yes, sometimes being a good Christian means graciously passing over the mistakes of others, but you also have room to admonish him to do the right thing by you. When he’s not being decent, you can insist that he be decent towards you; that is entirely in keeping with being a good Christian model to the other young women in your group. In fact, if you guide yourself as you would guide one of them through the same thing, I think you’ll do well. You’d get them through this without them having to leave the group, right? You wouldn’t let a young woman’s ex-boyfriend try to intimidate her into acting in a way a way that spares him any embarrassment, would you? Try to give yourself the same thing, and you will give it to those who watch you. Try to go through this as you’d hope they will when it happens to them, because some day it will. Your successes and failures will give you a particular sort of strength and compassion (both for your ex-boyfriend and for other couples going through this) that you’ll not gain in any other way. You can trust me on that one.

(Did I just say successes and failures? Yes, I did. Nobody gets a perfect “10” when it comes to breaking up. Do your best, hope he’ll do his best, and be ready to lay on a thick layer of compassion and forgiveness when it is all over. You’ll need it, but you’ll be fine in the end. Really. Your heart may not have nine lives, but like a cat it is a lot tougher than its delicate appearance would make you think!)
 
Easter Joy gives good advice. Don’t let his passing comments dictate your worth. You are of inestimable worth in the eyes of the One who matters most.

I know I spoke of this a bit on the other thread, but post-breakup interactions can be quite difficult. For me, if the breakup was like being wounded, talking with the ex afterwards was like picking at the scab and re-opening the wound. 😦 It is difficult to navigate the change in the dynamic of the relationship. But as Easter Joy said, don’t allow that to let him get away with talking to you in disrespectful ways.

I’ll keep you in my prayers.
 
mandy2, pray the Rosary every day. Go to confession. Be present at the Mass, especially at the Eucharist. This is truly the solution to 99% of problems.
 
mandy2, pray the Rosary every day. Go to confession. Be present at the Mass, especially at the Eucharist. This is truly the solution to 99% of problems.
A house built on this rock will weather any storm. You describe is an excellent habit for all phases of life, whether easy or difficult, and is all the more comforting in difficulty when it has been the habit of all of one’s life. Still, sometimes it a difficult time of our life that drives us to it, isn’t it?
 
This, too, shall pass. I know it seems enormous, but it is not. In your young life, God has many plans for you. A relationship with this person is not one of them, apparently.

From the standpoint of a mature woman who has had experience: it is almost impossible to be “friends” in a situation such as you describe. To do this requires great maturity and that means years of life experience.

This is hardly the end of the world although I know it might feel like it. This young man is not a candidate for any lasting relationship and, at your age, I don’t think such a candidate is credible! You have to know yourself, you have to love yourself, you have to learn how to teach others to treat you, you have to draw a long, dark and solid line between what you will accept in any relationship (including friendship) and not accept. This is a lot of work, it takes years and maturity and experience. Don’t be in such a hurry, you’re so young. If God intends for you to find a special man, it will happen, and surprisingly it might not be the person you thought would BE the candidate!

Little sister, take a step back. Your broken heart will mend, I guaranty it. Forty years from now, you’ll look back on this and see it from my perspective.
 
I posted a little less than a week ago saying my boyfriend broke up with me and how we were going to try being friends for the sake of the youth group we help out with. Well the youth group went well yesterday but after mass we have our own youth group that we go to for high school. That’s when I started showing more emotions and he blew up on me when I got home saying that it made him look bad. I really did love him and I want him to forgive me. I’m really trying to forgive him. Idk how to handle this. I don’t think I am trusting God enough because I am so severely hurt. He went from a boy who thought I was amazing and always made it seem like he was so happy with me. Now its the opposite and he is making me feel worthless :’( I shouldn’t be feeling this way. And I do still care so much for him and I care for his soul. It just hurts… A lot. 😦
You don’t owe him anything like that. He hurt you and has no right to expect you pretend like you are unhurt.
 
No doubt this incident will help you understand the difficulties in remaining friends after a breakup, especially immediately afterwards.

He is not your BF anymore and has no right to berate you. However, you should also respect that it may not be appropriate to discuss your emotions regarding the breakup in certain forums. Be selective and discrete about who you talk to, such as close friends who are more your own friends than mutual friends.

It may be best to limit the time you spend around each other for say a month. A month away from youth group will not really affect your involvement and the friendships you have there, but will give you a good time period to work through your emotions. That’s just a suggestion of course.
 
No doubt this incident will help you understand the difficulties in remaining friends after a breakup, especially immediately afterwards.

He is not your BF anymore and has no right to berate you. However, you should also respect that it may not be appropriate to discuss your emotions regarding the breakup in certain forums. Be selective and discrete about who you talk to, such as close friends who are more your own friends than mutual friends.

It may be best to limit the time you spend around each other for say a month. A month away from youth group will not really affect your involvement and the friendships you have there, but will give you a good time period to work through your emotions. That’s just a suggestion of course.
You know what…he broke up with her, if he doesn’t like watching her work through it, he can make himself scarce. He should not expect the convenience of initiating a breakup and having her pretend she would have initiated it herself. He either needs to man up and let her work through it–she does not seem to be trying to turn anyone against him. They’ll both live.
 
You know what…he broke up with her, if he doesn’t like watching her work through it, he can make himself scarce. He should not expect the convenience of initiating a breakup and having her pretend she would have initiated it herself. He either needs to man up and let her work through it–she does not seem to be trying to turn anyone against him. They’ll both live.
That’s very true, but the OP can’t control what this ex-BF will do, she can only control her own approach to the situation. I think giving herself a little distance at this time will help her work through it. And sharing the experience with friends who are less mutual and more directly her own friends will avoid placing anyone in the middle of it. She’ll get the best support from people who do not feel their loyalties are being split or tested.

That’s just my opinion; my suggestion. Ultimately it’s up to the OP whether she feels comfortable being around him at this time and exercising her right to emotional honesty regarding this situation.
 
He is the one who should have decided to keep his distance. Not her. He broke up with her. Youth groups and other actvities would be fantastic for her – without him there at the same time.

Regardless of whether it would work out, he should recognize that she was hurt and care enough about a fellow human being to not worsen it or deprive her of even more joy. He broke it off and he should have the integrity and compassion to leave her with her youth group and other activities.

That’s how I feel, anyway. I guess I am old fashioned.
 
He is the one who should have decided to keep his distance. Not her. He broke up with her. Youth groups and other actvities would be fantastic for her – without him there at the same time.

Regardless of whether it would work out, he should recognize that she was hurt and care enough about a fellow human being to not worsen it or deprive her of even more joy. He broke it off and he should have the integrity and compassion to leave her with her youth group and other activities.

That’s how I feel, anyway. I guess I am old fashioned.
I completely agree…but as I said above, she can’t control what her ex-BF does, only her own approach to the situation. So unless the ex-BF has some sort of epiphany and stays away, she has to plan an approach that takes his presence at these youth groups into account. I’m just suggesting that making herself busy with other friends and other events for a little while may be helpful in getting through this breakup.

She may decide that going to these youth groups regardless of her ex-BF’s attendance is what she wants, and that’s understandable.
 
If you’re upset, you owe him no apologies. “I’m not doing this to make you look bad. I’m doing it because I’m really upset. I’m sorry if you don’t like it–it’s not my first choice, either. Frankly, you might stop and think why you’re more worried about how other people think than you are about how I feel, and exactly why I should make some false pretense my top priority. If this is what you mean by staying friends, I’m not sure I’m too wild about your idea of what a friend is. So far, I’m not terribly impressed.”

Yes, I mean that if he wants to be friends, he needs to act like a friend, and you do have room to point that out. So far, he’s failing, and that is not the fault of your lack of trust in God. He needs to be a bit more sensitive to how difficult this if for you. If he wants to be a model for his youth group, maybe he needs to think about that. The way he blew up at you isn’t anything I’d want another young man to imitate, how about you?

You’re going to feel a lot less worthless if you stop letting what he says dictate your worth. Your worth doesn’t depend on what comes out of his mouth. In that sense, try to lean on God a bit more. God made you his daughter, and that is why you are amazing. Try to lean on that. Still, being a good Christian does not mean letting your sisters and brothers treat you badly. “Love your neighbor as yourself” means that you should not let him treat you in a way that you’d not let him treat someone else that he broke up with. Yes, sometimes being a good Christian means graciously passing over the mistakes of others, but you also have room to admonish him to do the right thing by you. When he’s not being decent, you can insist that he be decent towards you; that is entirely in keeping with being a good Christian model to the other young women in your group. In fact, if you guide yourself as you would guide one of them through the same thing, I think you’ll do well. You’d get them through this without them having to leave the group, right? You wouldn’t let a young woman’s ex-boyfriend try to intimidate her into acting in a way a way that spares him any embarrassment, would you? Try to give yourself the same thing, and you will give it to those who watch you. Try to go through this as you’d hope they will when it happens to them, because some day it will. Your successes and failures will give you a particular sort of strength and compassion (both for your ex-boyfriend and for other couples going through this) that you’ll not gain in any other way. You can trust me on that one.

(Did I just say successes and failures? Yes, I did. Nobody gets a perfect “10” when it comes to breaking up. Do your best, hope he’ll do his best, and be ready to lay on a thick layer of compassion and forgiveness when it is all over. You’ll need it, but you’ll be fine in the end. Really. Your heart may not have nine lives, but like a cat it is a lot tougher than its delicate appearance would make you think!)
thank you so much for that! Very helpful 🙂 It’s just still so hard because I’m not just losing him I am losing his sister…We were also bestfriends 😦
 
I completely agree…but as I said above, she can’t control what her ex-BF does, only her own approach to the situation. So unless the ex-BF has some sort of epiphany and stays away, she has to plan an approach that takes his presence at these youth groups into account. I’m just suggesting that making herself busy with other friends and other events for a little while may be helpful in getting through this breakup.

She may decide that going to these youth groups regardless of her ex-BF’s attendance is what she wants, and that’s understandable.
Yeah he and his sister are taking a break…
 
mandy2, pray the Rosary every day. Go to confession. Be present at the Mass, especially at the Eucharist. This is truly the solution to 99% of problems.
Thank you 🙂 I don’t know if somethings wrong with me because I have been praying a rosary almost everyday, going to Sunday mass and a couple daily masses and confession…It’s like nothings helping
 
That’s very true, but the OP can’t control what this ex-BF will do, she can only control her own approach to the situation. I think giving herself a little distance at this time will help her work through it. And sharing the experience with friends who are less mutual and more directly her own friends will avoid placing anyone in the middle of it. She’ll get the best support from people who do not feel their loyalties are being split or tested.

That’s just my opinion; my suggestion. Ultimately it’s up to the OP whether she feels comfortable being around him at this time and exercising her right to emotional honesty regarding this situation.
I guess that one of the reasons I posted on here is because ALL my friends are mutual friends of his…
 
Mandy, you probably don’t want to hear it, but if this guy doesn’t care about your feelings, doesn’t have compassion that you’re hurting at being dumped and finding you don’t matter to him, and he just berated you, honestly I don’t think he’s make a good long-term partner or husband. I know it hurts, but you may have had a lucky escape.
You shouldn’t feel worthless. He’s responsible for his own lacks. That he turned out to be uncaring towards you, is about him, not you.

God grant you someone who genuinely cares about you, at the right time.
 
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