House Passes Complete Ban on Taxpayer Funding of Abortions

[kimmielittle]

Yes, but this is hardly an argument that that sort of thing is always acceptable or that those who oppose specific “sorts of things” shouldn’t try to dry up funding for them.
I had no idea things were so bad. Goodness, would someone really do something as low as calling social services to help a pregnant 11 year old?
I’ve never understood this point either. PP makes a ton of money off abortions, they can surely afford to subsidize abortions for poor women without taking federal funds to make up their lost revenue. Actually, of course, money is fungible so saying they don’t use government money to fund abortions is like saying they put the fed’s money in their left pocket but subsidize abortions with the money in their right pocket.
An abortion takes a human life. That’s not a religious belief but a statement of fact; science is pretty unambiguous on that point.
I’m missing this point. What choice is being denied to (I assume you mean) poor people? The choice of having an abortion? But they have that choice today and, if your comment about PP not needing federal funds to perform abortions is true, they they will have that choice tomorrow. You don’t seem to believe your own claim about the funding issue.
Well, if nothing will change because of this bill then why are you so opposed to it?

Ender

Well Said!!!

:clapping::clapping:

 

[cathoichelp]

You aren’t

I believe, you brought up the IRS Nonprofit status:shrug:

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another poster said PPs books would be more available … I was just stating where they are available …

Anything pertaining to abortion always becomes trash Planned Parenthood on this site… this wasn’t even about PP…
sigh

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

The president will veto it, unfortunately. This is an area I agree with the Republicans on wholeheartedly. I wish it could pass with presidential approval. This is an area in which the president greatly disappoints me.

 

[oneGODoneCHURCH]

Once again,** Planned Parenthood does not use any Federal money for abortion**. Once again, of all the monies Planned Parenthood receives, from government, from grants, from private donations, as a non-profit, those monies are all subject to regulation and scrutiny Less then 10% of any PP locations budget is for abortion. Far more than 10% of their income is from other sources. The money is all handled with strict adherence to law and regulation, placed in separate bank accounts.

PP has no motive whatsoever to use those Federal monies for abortion. None, Zip, Nada. They don’t need it at all and would never risk losing money that funds medical care and cancer screening and education, which is over 90% of what they do.

That they use Fed money for abortion is a myth at best and propaganda at worst.

If you take Federal money from PP, all you do is hurt the poor women, teens and even men with no other health care alternatives. You stop cancer screening, STD testing, school programs, and yes, you stop them from providing free birth control to people who don’t believe what we believe. That’s freedom of religion in our country.

How do I know? My daughter is a non-profit specialist who presently works for Planned Parenthood and millions of dollars pass through her hands every year. Her first response to this was, “Wow, if we could just lump all the money together and use it any way we want I’d save a LOT of time!”

They even divide up the portion of the utility bills that are used on the day they do abortion procedures and pay with separate funds.

if they give any money for the murder of the unborn babies and they receive money from the fed then yes they use fed money to do so. It matters not if that money for the murder can direct or if they where able to use other money because it could be replaced with fed money. Lets take the fed money away and see if they PP stops funding baby murder or if they stop other program funding.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Abortion should never, ever be paid for with taxpayer dollars. It’s absurd.

 

[Sarahforgiven]

I haven’t read the Bill and I find my government to be essentially crooked and corrupt and wonder what might be tacked onto it, but if all it does is reiterate no Federal money for abortions, I’m all for it. BUT - there have to be caveats for poor women who are in need of medical abortions, as in times when a fetus is no longer viable, which we would call dead, stuff like that. Otherwise, all for it.

Do you have the text of the bill? Could we have a link? They might have tacked something onto it, you don’t want to have passed, either, you know.

Ridiculous argument, any woman needing legitimate care for a baby that has died in utero can get that care at any ED, as well as legitimate medical follow-up care. This is quite different than the $$ generating, infanticide going on at PP.
The same goes for the “life of the mother” inductions & early deliveries occur every day for moms & babies with medical problems & the babies go to neonatal intensive care, not a trash can.
I have worked in ORs, EDs, & OB units people just don’t get it:shrug:

 

[kimmielittle]

No, I don’t think

But someone wanted you to demonize PP in your eyes and and keep you from finding out things for yourself.

No one but Planned Parenthood needs to “demonize” Planned Parenthood in my eyes. Their record from establishment - to currant - speaks volumes.

The only one of us that missed the “point” of this bill is you.

If you haven’t read the bill???

Originally Posted by praxising
I haven’t read the Bill

Unlike you - I HAVE read the bill and even provided links to it.

HR 3

opencongress.org/bill/112-h3/text

gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr3eh/pdf/BILLS-112hr3eh.pdf

Maybe, we shouldn’t comment about this bill - or anything - until we actually know what we are referring to?

 

[Brendan]

Planned Parenthood doesn’t use Federal money for abortions, never has and doesn’t need it. And women in this country have the right to choose whether it fits anyone else’s religious beliefs or not. And when a choice is systematically denied to someone because of their socio-economic status, that is discrimination.

I have a right to choose to purchase a car, I have a right to purchase a 600 acre farm, I have legal rights to do LOTS of things. But if I cannot afford to do those due to socio-economic status, does the government have to purchase them for me?

Is it discrimination that some people purchase Corvettes, but the government will not buy one for me?

Have a legal right to does not necessitate or require that the government finance it.

 

[kimmielittle]

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