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Did anyone else catch it tonight? House was trying to convince a rape victim that abortion was ok and in the end, he’s now questioning the validity of that claim! He even admitted that “everyone will tell you that’s what we ‘gotta’ make her do… it’ll help her heal, make ourselves feel good… when all we’ve done is make a girl cry.”

I’m glad he pulled it up to show that it’s not a good thing to add onto the trauma of a girl’s rape. I hate when shows will push pro-choice stuff onto a rape victim instead of showing compassion.
 
I did watch it. I was in shock! The girl did terminate the pregnancy? We all watched it here.
 
yeah, unfortunately she did. I was hoping she’d stand firm on her conviction she showed when it was first brought up by House. But in the end, when he was talking about it while playing Foosball, he questioned if what they do pushing it onto rape victims is the answer because it harms the girl even more.
 
Not your typical episode of “House”. Hopefully next weeks will be more House-like 😛
 
I did not get the exchange after he said she “terminated” as I was so surprised. It really portrayed her,as believer in God and life, as a pushover.
 
She was a religious studies major in college. They made no allusion to what religion she was part of.

I thought it was very House-like in that he’s always confrontational.

I bet he argues with his breakfast cereal while he eats it.
 
I was so sad and disappointed by this episode. I’m a huge HOUSE fan, and try to catch it every week if I can. This episode had so much potential to do the right thing, but in the end they fell into the old liberal line that she was doing the best thing for herself. How very very sad.

The thing that made me the most angry, was when the rest of the staff told him he did the right thing by her (at the very end around the foosball table). They didn’t specifically say what that right thing was - talking her into terminating the pregnancy or telling her his own story and opening up to her - but it still can be seen as an affirmation of abortion being the right thing to do.

And I was so proud of her earlier in the show for sticking to her guns and telling in straight out that it’s murder. 😦

So sad.

I’ve meant to write to Fox today, but I’ve been swamped with work. I’ll try to do so tonight if I can.

~Liza
 
lizaanne said:
I was so sad and disappointed by this episode. I’m a huge HOUSE fan, and try to catch it every week if I can. This episode had so much potential to do the right thing, but in the end they fell into the old liberal line that she was doing the best thing for herself. How very very sad.

The thing that made me the most angry, was when the rest of the staff told him he did the right thing by her (at the very end around the foosball table). They didn’t specifically say what that right thing was - talking her into terminating the pregnancy or telling her his own story and opening up to her - but it still can be seen as an affirmation of abortion being the right thing to do.

And I was so proud of her earlier in the show for sticking to her guns and telling in straight out that it’s murder. 😦

So sad.

I’ve meant to write to Fox today, but I’ve been swamped with work. I’ll try to do so tonight if I can.

~Liza
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however, with the obvious conflict House has shown at the end, I took it to mean that here’s this tough guy, a man that obviously thinks things through quickly, is brought to question his own reasoning behind trying to talk a girl into an abortion. And to show he’s conflicted and not feeling to great with that idea, shows that he’s not resolved in his own conviction that abortion was the right answer. He’s questioning it.

It’s got him thinking about how wrong it is for people to try to talk a girl into an abortion after rape and that’s a whole lot better than some other shows that just automatically show the idea that it’s “the right thing”.
 
Sorry, I only caught that last 20 minutes or so–so what did the Australian resident (who is a lapsed Catholic but in one episode did pray to the BVM for intercession on a murdered baby’s soul) say?
 
Lion_of_Narnia said:
Sorry, I only caught that last 20 minutes or so–so what did the Australian resident (who is a lapsed Catholic but in one episode did pray to the BVM for intercession on a murdered baby’s soul) say?
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he didn’t say anything. he remained silent in the entire ordeal except at one point before the girl found out she was pregnant and he said she should remain in a coma. But otherwise… they didn’t include him in this storyline.
 
Liberal Hollywood at work again. Could you imagine the outrage had the plot been opposite? The lady had been raped, she was pregnant and wanted an abortion. Then Dr. House would try to talk her into keeping the baby. Oh my! You’d be hearing about this on all the talk shows, Hollywood would shut down, the ACLU, NARAL and NOW would be going crazy, protesting FOX. Just a thought.
 
The thing that intrigued me was when she said abortion was murder, and House says, “Well, yeah.” And then he explains that there are lots of times you want to kill people, even if the rule is not to–the question is where to draw the line. Birth is a nice, basic line.

“In actual fact not a big difference, but practically, it’s huge.” Or in other words, no, a pre-born child is no different from a born one. But it lets people feel different about killing babies.

Basically, House just stated the pro-abortion position rationally. He doesn’t need Wilson’s comforting illusions. Only, of course, if you state the pro-abortion position rationally, it’s killing innocent people because you don’t have a use for them.

And maybe, just maybe, they thought it would be interesting to let people hear that position stated rationally. People have been forced to look their ideas right in the face, and all it cost was an imaginary baby.

I like that about House. He makes people confront the lies they tell themselves to get through the day.
 
I’ve always found that the show House likes to walk an interesting line between current, common, liberal thought and religion. For example, in the episode “God vs House” it doesn’t declare a ‘winner’ persay. In the most recent episode, he stated quite bluntly that abortion was murder, though he was for it in this case. It did seem to portray her as a bit of a push-over, in the end when she did abort, but a rape-victim has got to be pretty shaky mentally… and then he did seem to express some sort of regret at the end for pushing her to do it. I think this episode did an incredible job of walking the afore-mentioned line, which leads me to think that the writers may be more religious than we give them credit to be… It’s fascinating, to say the least. It has never portrayed religion and the Christian faith in particular unfairly, I think. But House will be House… ^^
 
Finally a reason to defend why I can’t stand this show when so many of my Catholic friends seem to like it. I hate the guy and think the show is terrible. Oh and this is a very rare thing for me to say since I defend all the other bad shows and violence and stuff but for some reason this show just bothers me and I can’t stand it. The funy thing is I actually watched part of this show during the comercials of Law and Order so I saw the situation. I didn’t know that she went through with the abortion though. I do respect everyone’s right to watch and enjoy the show though and I certainly don’t think there is anything wrong with enjoying this show. I just personally can’t stand it which makes me laugh since I watch and defend my decision to watch several far worse shows and movies.
 
Hastrman said:
The thing that intrigued me was when she said abortion was murder, and House says, “Well, yeah.” And then he explains that there are lots of times you want to kill people, even if the rule is not to–the question is where to draw the line. Birth is a nice, basic line.

“In actual fact not a big difference, but practically, it’s huge.” Or in other words, no, a pre-born child is no different from a born one. But it lets people feel different about killing babies.

Basically, House just stated the pro-abortion position rationally. He doesn’t need Wilson’s comforting illusions. Only, of course, if you state the pro-abortion position rationally, it’s killing innocent people because you don’t have a use for them.
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Yes! I saw it too. I didn’t think he regretted pushing her to abortion at the foosbal table though. I think he was just being House and irritated that he had to deal with a weepy female with no difficult medical issue.

Nevertheless, it WAS refreshing to hear on TV a frank acknowledgement that abortion is murder, but a convenient one that has a believable rationalization. I NEVER expected to hear that much honesty on a major TV show.

I like the show, but only because I see House as a tragic character, not a hero. Yeah, he saves lots of lives, but he is a miserable wreck. He is an example of how NOT to be and it shows. If you don’t like the show, ask yourself if you haven’t bought into the lie that the most decent honorable people ought to be the BEST at what they do. God promises no such thing.
 
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