How are humans different than animals?

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How are humans different than animals and how do we prove that to others? I had a debate with an atheist and we kept getting stuck on whether the freedom to make decisions was distinctly human, or if humans too were controlled by instinct and natural selection.
 
How are humans different than animals and how do we prove that to others? I had a debate with an atheist and we kept getting stuck on whether the freedom to make decisions was distinctly human, or if humans too were controlled by instinct and natural selection.
Well, natural selection is probably no longer valid as we are in a position to manage our environment to suit us. We don’t change to suit the environment.

Most animals that have a modicum of intelligence make decisions. They are no different to us in that regard. An a lot of what we do is instinctive, just like animals (I should say ‘other animals’). We snarl, we grimace, we cower, we strut – all animals, including us, do this instinctively. But we have developed our intelligence up to the point where we can foresee the consequences of our action. Should I strut or cower? Should I fight or flee?

We can overcome our instinctive actions because we can foresee what the outcomes are likely to be. Likely due to a larger hippocampus which is effectively a larger hard drive so we can store more memories.

So you might remember that when you and your mates went into a particular area because there was a lot of food there - an instinctive move, one of them got attacked by a lion. Remembering this means that you can foresee that if you do the same again, then someone might get attacked again. So the smart move is…don’t go there.
 
We’re more than the sum of our parts. Within the human heart is the potential for great goodness or great evil. When a female fish eats her own babies, we’d be repulsed, but not surprised because many animals do that. Can you imagine the global outcry if a human female did something like that?

Humans can transcend instinct. Unless of course your atheist friend believes that he/she is equal, in terms of morality, with a chicken (in which case, there can be no reasoning with such a foolish person). I know many persons who would jump into a burning building to save people and animals, but I have yet to see a chicken do that for its human owner. I’m not holding my breath for that.
 
How are humans different than animals and how do we prove that to others? I had a debate with an atheist and we kept getting stuck on whether the freedom to make decisions was distinctly human, or if humans too were controlled by instinct and natural selection.
Psychologists and others who study animal cognition have found that animals have much more complex thinking and emotions than we ever suspected before. And not only chimps, monkeys, dolphins, and parrots, but also dogs, cats, elephants, and crows, for example. Still, one of the things we do better than animals is we reflect more and consequently worry more than animals. This is in part because our mind is more capable of traveling in time to the past and the future. Thus we are not as stuck in the present moment. Further, we have greater imagination and creativity than animals and are thus better able to function in our own virtual reality of the mind.
 
When I studied Early Childhood Development, we compared what was believed to be Chimpanzee cognition versus Human Cognition. Humans have metacognition, the ability to monitor their own thought processes. This is important if the being is going to make decisions that don’t propagate the genes or continue the species. These behaviors are found over and over again in human beings: a soldier throws himself on a grenade, a martyr chooses death rather than accept a forced philosophy or religion, all of this is possible only because man has the ability to review his motivations and choose to over ride the most hard wired instincts the mammals have for something breather than survival of the species.

I did not tell the professor he was talking about a conscience so I got a B.
 
Define “humans” and define “animals” first for how the terms are used in your argument. Otherwise you risk talking past each other. You can give me a long Catholic understanding of what a “human” is, but, without a proper definition of “animal” I can still say “Yes, a human is all those things. But they’re also still an animal.”
 
OK, at your desk`s.

Not alot if you decide that the commandment`s of the " + ", ( The Wor_ d ) have know integral place alonside the truth of obiedience . ( Free will, "does that come at a cost or is it normal too take the spirit for a walk, " fetch boy ", Jee,

Christians, christians, Marvin

:rolleyes:
 
OK, at your desk`s.

Not alot if you decide that the commandment`s of the " + ", ( The Wor_ d ) have know integral place alonside the truth of obiedience . ( Free will, "does that come at a cost or is it normal too take the spirit for a walk, " fetch boy ", Jee,

Christians, christians, Marvin

:rolleyes:
um…yeah…what he said…
 
How are humans different than animals and how do we prove that to others? I had a debate with an atheist and we kept getting stuck on whether the freedom to make decisions was distinctly human, or if humans too were controlled by instinct and natural selection.
May I start with some specific differences between humans and animals. Some examples.

The difference between a beaver dam and the Hoover Dam, Colorado River. The difference between a bird flapping its wings to fly over a lake and sitting in uncomfortable seats in an airplane. The difference between a twenty-story apartment building and an eagle’s nest. The difference between walking on the moon and baying at the moon.

This post is a simple strategy for gaining control of the turf. Explore the differences. No need to get hung up on it. One can go back to differences in the middle of comparing rational thought between a border collie and a teenager.

Concede that monkeys can quickly learn and then decide which button to push to get the hotel elevator to the kitchen floor – where there are friendly humans who like to see monkey antics in exchange for food.

Find the similarities. For example. The instincts of a mother bear and a human mother regarding their young. When walking in Alaska, don’t ever mess with a mother bear.

Natural selection is a common factor in the survival of any species. The immune system in vertebrates is a general example of the survival of the fittest and in the human species the additional survival of the smartest. Smartest survival is a way to later differentiate the rational tools of a human and the sentience of an animal. Keep in mind that the only extant species in a line of similar anatomical Homo ancestors is the human species.

It is o.k. to step into the world of atheism which is limited to the natural material physical realm of animals and the decomposing anatomy of humans. And then step over to the amazing spiritual realm of human capabilities. If the material factors of blood and guts, skin and bones, do not equally produce rational thought in all species :eek:
What happened?

If the above is interesting, I will look for my old notes on using free will as the distinguishing mark between humans and animals. The example of a raging fire works both ways regarding humans and animals. Thus, it can be tricky depending on the discussion partner’s comments. I am traveling so I am not sure how quickly I can find my notes. Also, as I recall, I did not get very far with my original thesis. Too many life interruptions. And as I honestly think about it – maybe I would not have been able to demonstrate free will adequately. On the other hand, maybe the journey is worth more than the destination. Maybe someone smarter than a cranky granny can get over the potholes.

Already there are some great posts regarding research, etc. One of my favorite “intelligence” research papers was to compare the mathematical abilities between college students and a species of monkeys. Just the thought of that tickles my sense of humor.

Seriously. As my Irish mother would say. “There is more than one way to skin a cat.”
What I have presented above is another way you and your discussion partner can talk about the topic. However, the above only works when one has deeply studied the ideas in the light of the Catholic approach to human nature starting with Genesis 1: 26-27. One does not have to vocally refer to Catholic doctrines. One can gently acknowledge the vast intelligence of some highly sentient species and then point out that the “knowledge” is not built upon as dramatically demonstrated by the rational tools of a human person.
 
When I studied Early Childhood Development, we compared what was believed to be Chimpanzee cognition versus Human Cognition. Humans have metacognition, the ability to monitor their own thought processes. This is important if the being is going to make decisions that don’t propagate the genes or continue the species. These behaviors are found over and over again in human beings: a soldier throws himself on a grenade, a martyr chooses death rather than accept a forced philosophy or religion, all of this is possible only because man has the ability to review his motivations and choose to over ride the most hard wired instincts the mammals have for something breather than survival of the species.

I did not tell the professor he was talking about a conscience so I got a B.
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