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Jayson
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I think most Ghosts who are trying to gain sympathy are really demonic spirits. There’s a book by Ed and Lorraine Warren with a case just like that in it.
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Darrel
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I worked with Ed and Lorain for a time. I would not recomend reading anything from them. Lorain claims to be a medium and they teach all sorts of new age things like it is gospel. The people who call them (over 20,000 over the years) looking for help are truely frightened. They bring the church into certain cases as the initial investigators.
Lorain looked at me one day and told me I had a blue glow/ora around me and asked me if I have ever had any knee problems. I was like… ummmm no. My knees are still ok. This was like 14 years ago.
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johnshelby
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well, just you wait… the odds are, you’ll have knee problems
sooner or later… lol
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Darrel
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lol,well, just you wait… the odds are, you’ll have knee problems
sooner or later… lol
This is true with the (odds) and old age eventualy coming into play. And yes I do get the blues once in a while.
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johnshelby
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maybe i’m not perceptive enough to see ghosts…
but, i think most of the time, people who see
ghosts wanna see ghosts… they want to see
'em bad… ( i’m not gonna type the next… logical
line… lol )
i’m not saying ghosts can’t exist… i’m just saying
that i think if they do, contact with people in order to
help them would be very, very rare…
remember what Jesus said about sending someone
to ‘warn’ the rich man’s brothers… ‘If they do not listen
to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded
even if someone rises from the dead.’"
and yes, i realize all the different ways Jesus meant this…
but, i think most of the time, people who see
ghosts wanna see ghosts… they want to see
'em bad… ( i’m not gonna type the next… logical
line… lol )
i’m not saying ghosts can’t exist… i’m just saying
that i think if they do, contact with people in order to
help them would be very, very rare…
remember what Jesus said about sending someone
to ‘warn’ the rich man’s brothers… ‘If they do not listen
to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be persuaded
even if someone rises from the dead.’"
and yes, i realize all the different ways Jesus meant this…
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Jayson
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Demons are scarier than Ghosts. I ain’t scared of no Ghost!
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Tonks40
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"Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS!"
GHOSTBUSTERS!"
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trumpet152
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Tonks40 said:"Who ya gonna call?
GHOSTBUSTERS!"
Very Nice
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mikeledes
Guest
I do not believe belief in ghosts are consistent with the Catholic faith. The dead either go to heaven, purgatory (which is a temporary state) or hell. Human souls do not go around tormenting or scaring people and roaming around houses. Ghosts are either the product of an overactive imagination, natural phenomena, dementia, or demons.
God Bless
God Bless
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Milliardo
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Not really. I think most ghosts who try to gain sympathy are really just that–they did not have any resolved endings during their lifetime. Anyway, here’s something interesting about Filipino culture, and how we view ghosts and such in general. The whole column can be found here: news.inq7.net/opinion/index.php?index=2&story_id=55247&col=81
We presume the dead will hang around for various reasons. Those who die violently linger for years, as we see in the stories around the workers who died while constructing the Manila Film Center. But there will also be ever-gentle “Lolo” [Grandfather] coming back because he misses his favorite grandchild. Our social ties extend beyond the grave, although we see that affection as dangerous as well-the dead, well, are dead and contact with the living can cause problems, including illnesses to the child.
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thistle
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What you say is against the Church’s position on this. When a person dies his/her soul is immediately judged and that person is either condemned and goes to Hell or is saved and goes straight to Heaven or first to Purgatory for purification. For reasons unknown to us God sometimes allows us a glimpse of a soul in Purgatory.
There are no lost souls wandering about and no souls who have not crossed over because of any unfinished business or attachments to loved ones on Earth. They are either immediately saved or condemned.
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Milliardo
Guest
I know. I didn’t say one should believe in that; I just posted what the Filipino’s belief system is.
We’re not entirely sure what actually happens after death; what we have are merely glimpses, so to speak, of how things will be. That is why the Filipino belief have the ninth day, the 40th day, the first death anniversary, etc. The ninth day corresponds to the 9-day novena for the dead; the 40th day would roughly correspond to more or less Lent, or rather how 40 is used in the Bible (albeit loosely in this case), and the first death anniversary…well, you know how it goes. The Filipino sees death not as the ending of life, but really an extension of it. It’s in our culture to be family: so we still see ghosts and such as part of our culture, because there is after all life after life. Now as to whether you should believe this or not, is up to you. It’s not what the Church actually teaches, but it is Filipino culture.
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2shelbys
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I used to have a great interest in this subject and did a lot of reading about it. The most plausible theory of what a ghost is in the classic sense, meaning something that is seen but does not interact with the enviroment or react to living people, is that they are some form of energy that has been attached to or impressed upon a specific location and replays like a tape when conditions are correct. They are not souls of any kind.
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CindyGia
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I agree with Deb1. While growing up, my family lived in a very old house built around 1889 and as children, we were literally terrorized by ghosts all the time that would rock rocking chairs without anyone sitting in them, swing cups from the kitchen cabinet hooks, make noise in the middle of the night and knock on doors and windows. My younger siblings who were around 5 and 6 years old at that time told of a man who, while they were playing in the attic, actually spoke with them and told them that his name was Van Worth and that he lived there in the house. When he disappeared through the wall, they came screaming down the stairs. For the duration of the time we lived in that house, they would never enter the attic again, nor would they go alone into rooms of the house either anymore.
As for myself, my oldest brother was killed in Vietnam. One night soon after his death, I was sleeping next to my sister (as siblings usually do) and just popped open my eyes in the middle of the night to see my dead brother’s smiling face no more than 8 inches from my own face. I was so horrified that I screamed without opening my mouth and clasped shut my eyes frozen in that spot sweating profusely until the alarm went off and my sister arose. From there I just leaped out of bed and ran down the stairs to my mother who calmly said to me “so your brother came to visit you? Wasn’t that sweet!” Mom was never afraid of the ghost in this house. Mind you all, we also were not religious in the least and my mother firmly believed in the occult.
My mother followed me into the Catholic Church one year after I converted in 2003/4. She still talks about “flying saucers” though because she has seen them too she claims.
I can’t explain ghosts, but I do believe they exists. I’ve seen them myself. Maybe they are from either Purgatory or Hell. Who knows.
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