How are we to judge angels?

[anhphan]

1 Cor. 6 said “Do you not know that we will judge angels?”. But we are lower ranked than angles, how can we judge them? Please help me.

 

[Fauken]

St. Paul is referring to demons.

 

[IdaCatholic]

how do you know that?

 

[Fauken]

Besides Haydock’s Commentary, 1 Corinthians 6 speaks of judging the world:

“6:2 Know you not that the saints shall judge this world? And if the world shall be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?”

Which belongs to the devil. So in this context, St. Paul is referring to demons.

 

[IdaCatholic]

Demons predate human saints. There are no new demons to judge. All the Angel’s and demons have been judged already.

 

[Fauken]

Demons predate human saints. There are no new demons to judge. All the Angel’s and demons have been judged already.

So St. Paul is lying? Where does it say the angels have already been judged?

 

[thistle]

1 Cor. 6 said “Do you not know that we will judge angels?”. But we are lower ranked than angles, how can we judge them? Please help me.

DR Bible, Haydock Commentary:

Ver. 3. Judge angels? That is, the wicked angels, the devils. (St. Thomas Aquinas)

 

[IdaCatholic]

The Catechism and the tradition of the Church speaks to this.

[391](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/391.htm’) Behind the disobedient choice of our first parents lurks a seductive voice, opposed to God, which makes them fall into death out of envy.266 Scripture and the Church’s Tradition see in this being a fallen angel, called “Satan” or the “devil”.267 The Church teaches that Satan was at first a good angel, made by God: "The devil and the other demons were indeed created naturally good by God, but they became evil by their own doing."268

[392](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/392.htm’) Scripture speaks of a sin of these angels.269 This “fall” consists in the free choice of these created spirits, who radically and irrevocably rejected God and his reign. We find a reflection of that rebellion in the tempter’s words to our first parents: "You will be like God."270 The devil “has sinned from the beginning”; he is “a liar and the father of lies”.271

[393](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/393.htm’) It is the irrevocable character of their choice, and not a defect in the infinite divine mercy, that makes the angels’ sin unforgivable. "There is no repentance for the angels after their fall, just as there is no repentance for men after death."272

[394](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/394.htm’) Scripture witnesses to the disastrous influence of the one Jesus calls “a murderer from the beginning”, who would even try to divert Jesus from the mission received from his Father.273 "The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil."274 In its consequences the gravest of these works was the mendacious seduction that led man to disobey God.

[395](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/395.htm’) The power of Satan is, nonetheless, not infinite. He is only a creature, powerful from the fact that he is pure spirit, but still a creature. He cannot prevent the building up of God’s reign. Although Satan may act in the world out of hatred for God and his kingdom in Christ Jesus, and although his action may cause grave injuries - of a spiritual nature and, indirectly, even of a physical nature- to each man and to society, the action is permitted by divine providence which with strength and gentleness guides human and cosmic history. It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but "we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him."275

The angels have rebelled and been judged before man was even created. This is why we do not judge our guardian angels or anything like that. Perhaps Paul we referring to the Christian’s power over the demonic and the ability to, in the Name of Jesus, banish these demons away from a person. I don’t know. What I do know is that we do not judge angel souls.

 

[IdaCatholic]

From the Baltimore Catechism.

Q. 221. Mention some Archangels and tell what they did.

A. The Archangel Michael drove Satan out of heaven; the Archangel Gabriel announced to the Blessed Virgin that she was to become the Mother of God. The Archangel Raphael guided and protected Tobias.

Q. 222. Were Angels ever sent to punish men?

A. Angels were sometimes sent to punish men. An Angel killed 185,000 men in the army of a wicked king who had blasphemed God; an Angel also slew the first-born in the families of the Egyptians who had persecuted God’s people.

Q. 223. What do our guardian Angels do for us?

A. Our guardian Angels pray for us, protect and guide us, and offer our prayers, good works and desires to God.

Q. 224. How do we know that Angels offer our prayers and good works to God?

A. We know that Angels offer our prayers and good works to God because it is so stated in Holy Scripture, and Holy Scripture is the Word of God.

Q. 225. Why did God appoint guardian Angels if He watches over us Himself?

A. God appointed guardian Angels to secure for us their help and prayers, and also to show His great love for us in giving us these special servants and faithful friends.

Q. 226. Were the angels, as God created them, good and happy?

A. The angels, as God created them, were good and happy.

Q. 227. Did all the angels remain good and happy?

A. All the angels did not remain good and happy; many of them sinned and were cast into hell, and these are called devils or bad angels.

Q. 228. Do we know the number of good and bad Angels?

A. We do not know the number of the good or bad Angels, but we know it is very great.

Q. 229. What was the devil’s name before he fell, and why was he cast out of heaven?

A. Before he fell, Satan, or the devil, was called Lucifer, or light-bearer, a name which indicates great beauty. He was cast out of heaven because through pride he rebelled against God.

Q. 230. How do the bad Angels act toward us?

A. The bad Angels try by every means to lead us into sin. The efforts they make are called temptations of the devil.

 

[Fauken]

The angels have rebelled and been judged before man was even created.

The Fall is not judgement.

This is why we do not judge our guardian angels or anything like that.

Why on earth would we judge our superiors?

Perhaps Paul we referring to the Christian’s power over the demonic and the ability to, in the Name of Jesus, banish these demons away from a person.

No, that power is reserved ordinarily for bishops and those he appoints as exorcists. In other words: priests.

 

[IdaCatholic]

Here is a great article about the subject.
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/5089.htm

I have noticed in rummaging through the internet that the idea of “judging angels” seems to be incredibly protestant which would make sense from a scripture standpoint.

And in Catholicism if the argument could be made for "judging of bad angels or demons that argument would be made by one human. Mary.

But the office of “thrones” and other ideas including our own prayers and defenses of the demonic would indicate that we do not judge the angels.

I could make this argument based on one angel alone. Michael.

St Michael the archangel, defends us in battle. He does not give us his sword, he wields it. He is our protection against the malice and snares of the devil, and the demonic.
We pray that God rebukes him, we pray this in humility. In humility we ask God to judge the demonic.
St michael is the prince of the heavenly hosts, or angels, he can cast into hell Satan and ALL THE EVIL SPIRITS who roam the world (our realm) seeking the ruin of souls. Michael is doing that. not us.

Michael through Christ, and maybe… possibly Mary,

 

[Cruciferi]

If I am correct, the Angels were tested and underwent a Particular Judgement. There’s still the Final Judgement for Everyone.

The righteous shall move onto the New Heavens and Earth whereas the damned… “Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.”

 

[JGD]

The verb “judge” has several meanings. It helps to check that out with a dictionary/google. St. Paul is not saying we are the one/s who make the final decision about the guilt or innocence of the angels and pass sentence.