How can a Church have no heirarchy? (about Russian Catholics)

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As I understand it, a Church is a body with valid apostolic succession, with bishops and priests and their faithful.

How come, then, the Russian Catholic Church is considered a Church when they have no bishops whatsoever?
 
They do have Bishops, they are under the jurisdiction of the local Latin Bishop 🙂
 
They do have Bishops, they are under the jurisdiction of the local Latin Bishop 🙂
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Catholic_Church

That article seems to imply that it’s the priests and the laity who are under the jurisdiction of Latins. Also at the top, it says they have no heirarchy, which I take it means they have no Bishops.

And see that is also confusing to me – why are they under the jurisdiction of another Church? I thought each Church is meant to be distinct from the other.

Or for that matter, why not have them under the jurisdiction of another Byzantine branch Church? It would relate with the Russian Catholic Church’s customs better than a Latin would.

(sorry the Russian Catholic Church is completely alien to me; trying to learn from the ground up)
 
That article seems to imply that it’s the priests and the laity who are under the jurisdiction of Latins.
That is true and a good distinction. Parishes, priests, and laity of the Russian Greek-Catholic Church are canonically subject to the Latin Ordinary w/in whose territorial jurisdiction they are situate. The Church itself is sine episcopi - without bishops.

To answer your first query - that the Church has no hierarchs at present is a function of ecclesiastical politics. In 1896, Father Nicholas (Tolstoy), of blessed memory, a Russian Orthodox priest, presented in Rome and sought to enter communion. His request was granted and he was incardinated into the Melkite Patriachate (Why? No one knows with surety. Speculation includes the possibilities that the only EC hierarch in Rome at the time may have been a Melkite bishop or that Rome, not foreseeing that there would later be others, thought best to enroll him in the only Byzantine Patriarchate.)

The Church is usually dated to the appointment of Blessed Father Archimandrite Leonid (Feodorov) as Apostolic Exarch of Moscow for Russian Greek-Catholics. At the time, he was under the canonical supervision of Metropolitan Andrei (Sheptitsky), principal hierarch of the Ukrainian Greek-Catholics.

Subsequent to the martyrdom of Blessed Leonid, Blessed Archimandrite Kliment (Sheptitsky) was appointed Exarch. After he was martyred in 1951, the exarchate remained vacant - unless a successor was named in peccatore and never revealed due to the Communist situation in the USSR.

A second exarchate was established at Harbin, China, to which many Russians had fled to escape persecution, The Servant of God Father Archimandrite Fabian (Abrantowicz), MIC, was the initial appointee to that See and, after his martyrdom, was succeeded by the Servant of God Father Archimandrite Andrzej (Cikoto), MIC, who suffered a similar fate.

Both exarchates remain listed in Vatican documents, but are sede vacante and have been for more than a half-century. That either will be reconsituted any time soon is unlikely, as doing so would present a major stumbling block to relations between Rome and the Patriarchate of Moscow, which considers the Russian Greek-Catholic Church as an infringement on its territorial prerogatives and as poachers.

The last two hierarchs were Kyr Alexander Evreinov and Kyr Andrei Katkoff, MIC, both of blessed memory. Both were episcopi ordinans, ordaining bishops, and neither held a title of canonical jurisdiction.

A Latin bishop was named Ordinary for Russian Greek-Catholics in Russia a few years - a situation known as being sui alienis - subject to the law of another. It is an unsatisfactory situation created by Rome to avoid a move by Russian Greek-Catholic clergy to elect an administrator to the vacant exarchate.
why are they under the jurisdiction of another Church? I thought each Church is meant to be distinct from the other.
Good question … because Canon Law places Eastern and Oriental Catholics of a Church that is without hierarchy (or of a Church with hierarchy but resident in a country where their Church lacks same) under the canonical jurisdiction of the local Latin ordinary.
Or for that matter, why not have them under the jurisdiction of another Byzantine branch Church? It would relate with the Russian Catholic Church’s customs better than a Latin would.
A better question yet! Probably because, when the Codes were written, it never occurred to their Latin drafters. As a practical matter, this has occurred in several places - but as a makeshift arrangement in most instances. For example, there are 4 Russuan Greek-Catholic temples in the US. One is formally under the spiritual omophor of the Melkite Eparchy (albeit, canonically subject to a Latin ordinary); another is informally under the same omophor; a third is served by a priest of the Melkite Eparchy; and the fourth is under the omophor of the Romanian Eparchy, informally.

In Brazil, the sole Russian temple is informally under the omophor of the Melkite Eparchy and the same is true in Australia.

Hungarian, Croat, and Slovak Greek-Catholics in the US, who lack hierarchs, are committed to the pastoral care of the Ruthenians; the Ruthenians, in Canada, are commtted to the pastoral care of the Slovaks, while the Hungarians are committed to the pastoral care of the Ukrainians. Those arrangements are all formalized by decrees from Rome.

The Ruthenians erected a parish in the US for the Byzantine Italo-Greeks, who have no hierarchy in this country - that arrangement has become formal by default, given the erection of the parish.

The Melkites in Australia serve the pastoral needs of the Byzantine Italo-Greico-Albanians there, whose only hierarchy is in their historical lands. That is an informal arrangement.

The Belarusians and Albanians, likewise, have no hierarchs at present. The Albanians are, at least, under the canonical authority of a Byzantine hierarch, albeit he is not himself an Albanian Greek-Catholic. The Belarusians, in Belarus and the UK, are under the canonical supervision of Byzantine prelates of their Church, but they are not hierarchs and are, themselves, subject to Latin ordinaries.

The Georgian Greek-Catholic Church is extinct, having been without a hierarch since the martyrdom of the Servant of God, Father Exarch Shio (Bashmanshvilli) and having been without clergy of their Church for a half-century now.

One of three Italo-Greico-Albanian canonical jurisdictions is presently sui alienis, subject to the hierarch of another Church, since the retirement of its hierarch a year ago.

Other than that, all’s well!
 

Probably because, when the Codes were written, it never occurred to their Latin drafters. …
The drafters of the eastern canon law included eastern Catholics. They actually did forsee various situation of caring for the faithful of another Church sui iuris and included laws to cover it in both codes. Also there is Pastor Bonus, including the offices of the Roman Curia of which one specifically serves the oriental Churches: The Congregation for Oriental Churches (CFOC), and specifically has jurisdiction in some areas for some matters.

For care of the faithful without their own hierarchy, the CCEO 193 §1 does not specify the Latin Church specifically, but another Church sui iuris. Also the CIC 383 §2 states that the Latin Church must care for faithful of other Churches sui iuris.

The Apostolic See has provided that in the USA, eastern Catholics without their own pastor nearby are subjects of the local Latin pastor. *

But when the eastern Catholics do not have a parish, it is not a shared jurisdiction. They are still subject to the jurisdiciton of their own Church sui iuris hierach, or for those Churches without hierarcy of their own Church sui iuris, the hierarch comissioned for them of another Church sui iuris. The CFOC is relied upon for all eastern Catholics, and includes all the eastern Patriarchs and Major Archbishops as members.

CCEO Canon 193
§1. The eparchial bishop to whom the care of Christian faithful of another Church sui iuris are committed is bound by the serious obligation of providing all the things in order that these Christian faithful retain the rite of their own Church, cultivate and observe it as much as they can; he should foster relations with the higher authority of that Church.
§2. The eparchial bishop is to provide for the spiritual needs of those Christian faithful, if it is possible, through presbyters or pastors of the same Church sui iuris as the Christian faithful or even through a syncellus constituted for the care of these Christian faithful.
§3. Eparchial bishops, who appoint such presbyters, pastors or syncelli for the care of Christian faithful of patriarchal Churches, re to formulate plans of action with the patriarchs who are concerned in the matter and, if they are in agreement, act by their own authority and notify the Apostolic See as soon as possible; if the patriarchs, for any reason whatever, disagree, the matter is to be referred to the Apostolic See.

intratext.com/X/ENG1199.HTM

(Rite in CIC means Church sui iuris in CCEO)

CIC Can. 383
§1. In exercising the function of a pastor, a diocesan bishop is to show himself concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to his care, of whatever age, condition, or nationality they are, whether living in the territory or staying there temporarily; he is also to extend an apostolic spirit to those who are not able to make sufficient use of ordinary pastoral care because of the condition of their life and to those who no longer practice their religion.
§2. If he has faithful of a different rite in his diocese, he is to provide for their spiritual needs either through priests or parishes of the same rite or through an episcopal vicar.
§3. He is to act with humanity and charity toward the brothers and sisters who are not in full communion with the Catholic Church and is to foster ecumenism as it is understood by the Church.
§4. He is to consider the non-baptized as committed to him in the Lord, so that there shines on them the charity of Christ whose witness a bishop must be before all people.

vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_P1E.HTM

  • Apostolic Delegation to the President of the National Conference of Catholic Bishops, June 24, 1982, protocol number 2368/82/4, published in Roman Replies 1982 (Washington: CLSA, 1982) 11-22.
 
Both exarchates remain listed in Vatican documents, but are sede vacante and have been for more than a half-century.
Harbin is extinct. It would make more sense to erect one in El Segundo, actually, or even Denver, and I do not think of these as refugee communities.

The plain fact is, that it wouldn’t make any difference whatever what the relationship was like between the MP and the RP. Harbin was a temporary waystop, the Russian Whites have all gone and they left is no convert community in their wake.
A Latin bishop was named Ordinary for Russian Greek-Catholics in Russia a few years - a situation known as being sui alienis - subject to the law of another.
This made be very upset at the time it happened, actually angry in a way. I got over it 😉
It is an unsatisfactory situation created by Rome to avoid a move by Russian Greek-Catholic clergy to elect an administrator to the vacant exarchate.
If I recall correctly, they actually did elect their own administrator after waiting a very long time for Rome to act, but this was a dangerous development that had to be nipped in the bud … and so it was. Rome rejected the suggestion, and I think (correct me if I am wrong) told them not to make such an assembly for that purpose in the future.

In my opinion (this and a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee) the Latin Catholics in Russia should probably be under a Byzantine-Slav bishop, not the other way around.
 
Denver would definitely be a good seat for a new Russian Eparchy. Fr. Frank leads a very dynamic Russian-Roman hybrid Parish with a great college ministry. He teaches at the local Jesuit University and Roman Seminary. Father definitely gets around and is doing some powerful work.
 
I’ve often read here and elsewhere that we Russians are perceived of as the most Orthodox of the Eastern Catholic Churches. I know our parish strives for this faithfulness. Several priests from other ECCs who have visited our parish have made comments that maybe being under a Latin Bishop has its benefits. 🙂

Our local Ordinary, through his staff at the Chancery, has said they know us to be a self governing Church and they don’t wish to initiate getting into our business but stand ready to respond when asked. Recently we have had some significant challenges and both the Chancery staff and the local neighborhood Latin parish and priest have come forward with generosity and very moving pastoral concern and support.

How a heirarch could well serve our 4 remaining small Russian parishes, one in NY, two in CA, and one in CO I don’t know. Such is our fate as a tiny remnant. The value of having our bishop close at hand has also been apparent at this time in the history of our particular parish. Again, here in SF the local Church is very respectful and supportive.

When I’m at the OCA parish and the Bishop visits, or with the Greeks and the Metropolitan visits, or when Bishop Samra visited the Melkites in San Jose and I was there, I taste first hand some of what it means to have a bishop of one’s own patrimony, and I mean that in the most positive sense.

(Please pray for Archbishop George as he continues to recover from double bi-pass surgery. Our parish received a card from him this week thanking us for our prayers and saying how much he relies on them.)
 
While I respect Father Chrysostom’s work there and have no doubt of the Ss Cyril & Methodius community’s devotion to the Russian Greek-Catholic Church, Denver would make a poor choice. There are no Russians in the parish - converts, transferees from the Latin Church, disaffected Ruthenians, and displaced Catholics of other Eastern Churches, yes, but no cradle Russians.

St Andrew the First-Called in El Segundo, with a community that actually includes some descendents of the Exarchate of Harbin, would be a much better choice. I believe OLF in San Francisco may still have a few as well. St Michael’s in NYC has some few Russian emigres, among whom are, undoubtedly, a few descendents of the Moscow Exarchate.
 
The drafters of the eastern canon law included eastern Catholics. They actually did forsee various situation of caring for the faithful of another Church sui iuris and included laws to cover it in both codes. Also there is Pastor Bonus, including the offices of the Roman Curia of which one specifically serves the oriental Churches: The Congregation for Oriental Churches (CFOC), and specifically has jurisdiction in some areas for some matters.
The CCEO was principally drafted by the minutantes of the Colonial Office (aka the Oriental Congregation) and they, as a whole, are Latins.
But when the eastern Catholics do not have a parish, it is not a shared jurisdiction. They are still subject to the jurisdiciton of their own Church sui iuris hierach, or for those Churches without hierarcy of their own Church sui iuris, the hierarch comissioned for them of another Church sui iuris. The CFOC is relied upon for all eastern Catholics, and includes all the eastern Patriarchs and Major Archbishops as members.
In your mind the Oriental Congregation may be relied upon - in the hierarchical offices of the Eastern Churches, it causes rolling of eyes, sneers, and derogatory comments. That the Patriarchs and Major Archbishops are members now is of small solace as, much like any bureaucracy, the day-to-day activities are carried out by staff - and I’ve already treferenced them and their qualifications for same.
CCEO Canon 193
§1. The eparchial bishop to whom the care of Christian faithful of another Church sui iuris are committed is bound by the serious obligation of providing all the things in order that these Christian faithful retain the rite of their own Church, cultivate and observe it as much as they can; he should foster relations with the higher authority of that Church.
§2. The eparchial bishop is to provide for the spiritual needs of those Christian faithful, if it is possible, through presbyters or pastors of the same Church sui iuris as the Christian faithful or even through a syncellus constituted for the care of these Christian faithful.
§3. Eparchial bishops, who appoint such presbyters, pastors or syncelli for the care of Christian faithful of patriarchal Churches, re to formulate plans of action with the patriarchs who are concerned in the matter and, if they are in agreement, act by their own authority and notify the Apostolic See as soon as possible; if the patriarchs, for any reason whatever, disagree, the matter is to be referred to the Apostolic See.
Too bad the counterpart provision of the CIC - quoted below - is not so explicit in its instruction to the Latin hierarchs, as this is not really a matter often faced by our hierarchs. If the Latins were so charged, perhaps the Ethiopian and (especially) the Eritrean (Ge’ez) Catholics in the US would not be so underserved or unserved as they presently are - and maybe there would be an Italo-Greico-Albanian mission in New Orleans.
CIC Can. 383
§1. In exercising the function of a pastor, a diocesan bishop is to show himself concerned for all the Christian faithful entrusted to his care, of whatever age, condition, or nationality they are, whether living in the territory or staying there temporarily; he is also to extend an apostolic spirit to those who are not able to make sufficient use of ordinary pastoral care because of the condition of their life and to those who no longer practice their religion.
§2. If he has faithful of a different rite in his diocese, he is to provide for their spiritual needs either through priests or parishes of the same rite or through an episcopal vicar.
§3. He is to act with humanity and charity toward the brothers and sisters who are not in full communion with the Catholic Church and is to foster ecumenism as it is understood by the Church.
§4. He is to consider the non-baptized as committed to him in the Lord, so that there shines on them the charity of Christ whose witness a bishop must be before all people.
 
Denver would definitely be a good seat for a new Russian Eparchy. Fr. Frank leads a very dynamic Russian-Roman hybrid Parish with a great college ministry. He teaches at the local Jesuit University and Roman Seminary. Father definitely gets around and is doing some powerful work.
It is not a “Russian-Roman hybrid parish”. There is no such thing, nor is any such thing allowed.

St Elizabeth of Hungary is a Latin parish. Ss Cyril & Methodius is a Russian Greek-Catholic Mission. The mission meets in the temple of the Latin parish. It happens that the same priest is pastor of the Latin parish and administrator of the Russian mission. (Similarly, Father Archimandrite Alexie in El Segundo is pastor of the Russian parish and administrator of the Melkite mission which meets in the temple of the Russian parish.)
 
Harbin is extinct. It would make more sense to erect one in El Segundo, actually, or even Denver, and I do not think of these as refugee communities.

The plain fact is, that it wouldn’t make any difference whatever what the relationship was like between the MP and the RP. Harbin was a temporary waystop, the Russian Whites have all gone and they left is no convert community in their wake.
Very true as regards Harbin. It is of no concern to the MP, though it has been suggested that the MP would look with disfavor on the erection of any Russian Greek-Catholic canonical jurisdiction, regardless of location, as it would affirm the right of there being a RGC Church - the basic point of dispute.

As to Harbin, it is a historical memory to both Russian Catholics and Orthodox at this point in time - its import being the memory of those martyred there and the memory of the flight from there on the part of the now small numbers of survivors - whether Russian Orthodox, Russian Catholic, or Old Believers and Old Ritualists.

The last of those in both the Russian Orthodox and Russian Greek-Catholic Churches who had actual physical ties to there are dwindling quickly. I recollect Russian Orthodox Protodeacon Nikolai Porshnikoff, of blessed memory, who reposed in SF 7 or 8 years ago and had, as a youngster, served at the altar in Harbin and Father Archimandrite George (Brianchaninoff), a very elderly Russian Greek-Catholic presbyter in Australia, now retired and in nursing care, likewise.
If I recall correctly, they actually did elect their own administrator after waiting a very long time for Rome to act, but this was a dangerous development that had to be nipped in the bud … and so it was. Rome rejected the suggestion, and I think (correct me if I am wrong) told them not to make such an assembly for that purpose in the future.
Not sure about the last part, but it would not surprise me.
In my opinion (this and a few bucks will buy you a cup of coffee) the Latin Catholics in Russia should probably be under a Byzantine-Slav bishop, not the other way around.
There’s a thought - though the Latins are, for obvious reasons, the more numerous.
 
The CCEO was principally drafted by the minutantes of the Colonial Office (aka the Oriental Congregation) and they, as a whole, are Latins.

In your mind the Oriental Congregation may be relied upon - in the hierarchical offices of the Eastern Churches, it causes rolling of eyes, sneers, and derogatory comments. That the Patriarchs and Major Archbishops are members now is of small solace as, much like any bureaucracy, the day-to-day activities are carried out by staff - and I’ve already treferenced them and their qualifications for same.

Too bad the counterpart provision of the CIC - quoted below - is not so explicit in its instruction to the Latin hierarchs, as this is not really a matter often faced by our hierarchs. If the Latins were so charged, perhaps the Ethiopian and (especially) the Eritrean (Ge’ez) Catholics in the US would not be so underserved or unserved as they presently are - and maybe there would be an Italo-Greico-Albanian mission in New Orleans.
There is a persistent problem of not following the spirit (if not the letter) of the canons.

Note that the Armenian Patriarch of Cilicia, Grégoire-Pierre Agagianian, was the President of the Pontifical Commision for the revison of the Code of Oriental Canon Law., of the eastern Armenian Catholic Church.
 
Note that the Armenian Patriarch of Cilicia, Grégoire-Pierre Agagianian, was the President of the Pontifical Commision for the revison of the Code of Oriental Canon Law., of the eastern Armenian Catholic Church.
Krikor Bedros XV Aghajanian, of blessed memory, reposed in 1970 or 71, as I best recollect. I will not blame the CCEO, issued in 1990, on him.
 
Krikor Bedros XV Aghajanian, of blessed memory, reposed in 1970 or 71, as I best recollect. I will not blame the CCEO, issued in 1990, on him.
Best to blame it on Blessed Pope John Paul II then, since he said in Sacri Canones:

*"*We must admit that this Code is “composed by the Easterners themselves”
according to the directions given by our predecessor, Paul VI at the solemn
inauguration of the work of the commission (AAS 66 [1974] 246). Today, as
generously as possible, I thank those who were participants in this work."

and

“I implore Holy Mary ever Virgin, to whose benevolent watchfulness I
repeatedly entrusted the preparation of the Code, that she entreat her Son
with maternal prayer that the Code may become a vehicle of his love which
was splendidly demonstrated from the heart of Christ pierced by the lance on
the cross, according to St. John the Apostle, the splendid witness, that it ought
to be inwardly implemented in the heart of every human creature.”

“And thus, having invoked Divine Grace, supported by the authority of the
Blessed Apostles Peter and Paul, looking favorably on the certain knowledge
and wishes of the patriarchs, archbishops and bishops of the Eastern Churches
who have collaborated with me in a collegial spirit, and having used the
fullness of the Apostolic authority with which I am endowed, by this, my
Constitution, to be in force for the future, I promulgate the present Code as
it has been arranged and revised, and I order and decree that it obtain the
force of law for all of the Eastern Catholic Churches. I hand it over to the
hierarchs of these same Churches to be observed with care and vigilance.”

archive.org/details/ApostolicConstitutionSacriCanonesJohnPaulIi1990

It was quite a long project. Some of the latter Presidents or Vice-Presidents of the Pontifical Commission for the Codification of Oriental Canon Law renamed Pontifical Commission for the Revision of Code of Oriental Canon Law were:

Presidents:
Cardinal Joseph Parecattil (1972 – 1987)
Cardinal Gregory Bédros XV Agagianian (1955-1971)
Cardinal Massimo Massimi (1936 – 1939)
Cardinal Luigi Sincero (1934 – 1936)

Vice-Presidents:
Bishop Emile Eid (1982– 1990)
Bishop Miroslav Stefan Marusyn (1977 – 1982)
 
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