How close should a RCIA sponsor be to their inductee?

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I am the RCIA sponsor of a girl roughly my own age. She might be a lesbian, but does not wish to talk about it. She doesn’t seem to be living the “gay lifestyle”. I’m not sure if I should bore into such personal matters. She is a good person with sincere convictions. Help?
 
You should be close enough to feel comfortable talking about things of faith.

Sexual orientation is not a qualification or disqualification for receiving the sacraments. If she were to ask you, obviously, you would need to tell her honestly that the Church cannot approve homosexual sexual intimacy, while assuring her that she is beloved by Jesus and His Church.
 
I am the RCIA sponsor of a girl roughly my own age. She might be a lesbian, but does not wish to talk about it. She doesn’t seem to be living the “gay lifestyle”. I’m not sure if I should bore into such personal matters. She is a good person with sincere convictions. Help?
You should have the opportunity at some point to speak with her about moral issues, like Homosexual relationships, Gay “Marriage”, Birth Control, etc.
 
I am the RCIA sponsor of a girl roughly my own age. She might be a lesbian, but does not wish to talk about it. She doesn’t seem to be living the “gay lifestyle”. I’m not sure if I should bore into such personal matters. She is a good person with sincere convictions. Help?
I would personally consider another person. Most RCIA programs should have a pool of people they can call upon for those without a sponsor. Either find someone else or ask your RCIA coordinator to get you someone else. A person doesn’t have to necessarily “live the gay lifestyle” to promote an attitude that is not in line with Christian teachings.

However, this is a matter of discernment for you. Only you (you know her) can really judge whether her sexual orientation is something she is battling or something she has accepted - and this will effect her spiritual walk. This will naturally will effect your walk, as well. Sponsors are supposed to be a good Catholic example.

Regards
 
I would personally consider another person. Most RCIA programs should have a pool of people they can call upon for those without a sponsor. Either find someone else or ask your RCIA coordinator to get you someone else. A person doesn’t have to necessarily “live the gay lifestyle” to promote an attitude that is not in line with Christian teachings.

However, this is a matter of discernment for you. Only you (you know her) can really judge whether her sexual orientation is something she is battling or something she has accepted - and this will effect her spiritual walk. This will naturally will effect your walk, as well. Sponsors are supposed to be a good Catholic example.

Regards
I don’t think it’d be a good idea to do so. She is very much for Church teachings, and the question over her sexuality came to be by some other person mentioning it to me, not by “an attitude that is not in line with Christian teachings”.

It is something I am sort of worried about. She doesn’t know many people where I’m from, and I’m not sure if she’d be willing to share such personal details with another RCIA sponsor. The only other Catholics she has befriended are not confirmed yet, and they do not really support the Church’s stance on homosexuality… and other things. (Most of the Catholic youth here are not confirmed until their senior year.) Besides, I am her friend, and I care about her. The worst thing I could do is leave her without some spiritual guide.

I agree with Br. Rich SFO in that I will let the issue come up when it needs to, because it most certainly will. Right now, I will let things be as they are.

Thanks for the advice, guys.
 
As sponsor, you will stand before your Pastor in Mass and vouch for the person you are sponsoring. You should be close enough to do that with a clear conscience.
 
I don’t think it’d be a good idea to do so. She is very much for Church teachings, and the question over her sexuality came to be by some other person mentioning it to me, not by “an attitude that is not in line with Christian teachings”.

It is something I am sort of worried about. She doesn’t know many people where I’m from, and I’m not sure if she’d be willing to share such personal details with another RCIA sponsor. The only other Catholics she has befriended are not confirmed yet, and they do not really support the Church’s stance on homosexuality… and other things. (Most of the Catholic youth here are not confirmed until their senior year.) Besides, I am her friend, and I care about her. The worst thing I could do is leave her without some spiritual guide.

I agree with Br. Rich SFO in that I will let the issue come up when it needs to, because it most certainly will. Right now, I will let things be as they are.

Thanks for the advice, guys.
Carefully read up on the Churches teaching on these moral matters, in the Catechism and other Church documents.
 
I am the RCIA sponsor of a girl roughly my own age. She might be a lesbian, but does not wish to talk about it. She doesn’t seem to be living the “gay lifestyle”. I’m not sure if I should bore into such personal matters. She is a good person with sincere convictions. Help?
I’m not sure her sexual orientation should be a disqualification from joining the church. Homosexuality is a sinful act, this is true. But lets think for a bit about how Christ treated sinners, he sought them out didn’t he? Just because gay people make us feel more uncomfortable, it doesn’t mean they make God madder, that Jesus is making an exception in the case of “gay” people, “oh yeah, those ones can’t enter my Church”.

If they’re Gay, then that will be something they’re going to have to work out with your parish priest. If they’re Gay and managing to live a richeous life, then well… they’re a saint in my eyes, and I have to think God will have a reward for them in the Kingdom equal to the cross they carry in life. I would continue to guide her, and exhort her to a prayerful, holy life style. Gay or straight.
 
I’m not sure her sexual orientation should be a disqualification from joining the church. Homosexuality is a sinful act, this is true. But lets think for a bit about how Christ treated sinners, he sought them out didn’t he? Just because gay people make us feel more uncomfortable, it doesn’t mean they make God madder, that Jesus is making an exception in the case of “gay” people, “oh yeah, those ones can’t enter my Church”.

If they’re Gay, then that will be something they’re going to have to work out with your parish priest. If they’re Gay and managing to live a richeous life, then well… they’re a saint in my eyes, and I have to think God will have a reward for them in the Kingdom equal to the cross they carry in life. I would continue to guide her, and exhort her to a prayerful, holy life style. Gay or straight.
He is not there to judge her but to help her understand the teachings of the Church, including the moral teachings. He will present her as her Sponsor stating that she understands what the Church teaches and also lives what the Church teaches.
 
I’m not sure her sexual orientation should be a disqualification from joining the church. Homosexuality is a sinful act, this is true. But lets think for a bit about how Christ treated sinners, he sought them out didn’t he? Just because gay people make us feel more uncomfortable, it doesn’t mean they make God madder, that Jesus is making an exception in the case of “gay” people, “oh yeah, those ones can’t enter my Church”.

If they’re Gay, then that will be something they’re going to have to work out with your parish priest. If they’re Gay and managing to live a richeous life, then well… they’re a saint in my eyes, and I have to think God will have a reward for them in the Kingdom equal to the cross they carry in life. I would continue to guide her, and exhort her to a prayerful, holy life style. Gay or straight.
This really isn’t the problem. The Church accepts people whether they are straight or gay, and if you think otherwise, you are gravely mistaken. What matters is how she chooses to live out her sexuality, and I don’t exactly know how she will act on it. That’s the problem.
 
This really isn’t the problem. The Church accepts people whether they are straight or gay, and if you think otherwise, you are gravely mistaken. What matters is how she chooses to live out her sexuality, and I don’t exactly know how she will act on it. That’s the problem.
Filius,

You are correct, the Church accepts everyone, but not everyone is a good example of a person walking the Catholic walk. A sponsor is supposed to be a good example - thus, we do not ask people living together as husband and wife when they are NOT husband and wife. Fornication is a sin - even IF we believe they are not fornicating, the scandal of their living arrangment can be a problem. We do not ask alcoholics or heretics to be sponsors, even though the church accepts them into her arms. And generally, we do not ask homosexuals to be sponsors (if we know they are) because of the teachings of the Church on this subject.

Remember, the role of a sponsor is someone to LOOK UP TO in your walk while becoming fully Catholic. It should not be someone you feel the NEED TO CORRECT during THEIR walk!!! Thus, when a person has a particular orientation that could lead to sin, one must tread carefully. This does not just apply to sexual orientation, my friend. It also applies to a man/woman who has an attitude towards abortion, a man/woman who has problems with alcohol or illegal drugs. A person certainly can be a good example, but eventually, you may be faced with listening to the advice of someone who is not teaching what the Church teaches. This can be a problem for a person desiring to enter into communion with us.

That is why I suggested you be very careful if you decide to follow this Christian in your walk.

Good luck and God bless,

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