Actually, I did address your opinion several times.
Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to take my dogs out and let them swim for a little while before it starts storming.
Well it wasn’t my opinion or argument that you have failed to address as I really haven’t offered one–others did that (I offered a couple of verses that support the belief is all) – I was chiefly pointing out that 1.) it is you who refuses to respond though you keep accusing others of this and I have offered the 2 posts you failed to respond to as evidence and 2.) it is you who have been dismissive etc.
If you would be so kind as to point out your posts – on this thread – that you beleive address the “opinion” - that would be helpful–because I don’t see them. Your first post #13 provides two verses–niether of which refutes the idea of the real presence. Your next post #14 doesn’t address the issue in any substantive way either–and why it doesn’t was addressed in another post.
Your post #18 just asks a question–which was answered.
Your response to a post citing Christ telling his apostles to take and eat his body was “After which, He gave them a piece of bread, not a piece of flesh” What is your point? You ignored that he said the bread was his body–which was pointed out to you. We could have had a nice discussion about what Christ meant.
Your post 26 just asks us how we know–and you were answered by posters and were cited two posts which you have failed to respond to or attempt to refute what has been offered. Instead you ignore the arguments, take shots, and are dismissive.
Simply claiming to have answered something doesn’t make it so. And if you have better things to do than engage in a meaning discussion of the issue then by all means do so–but please don’t offend our intelligence by telling us you offered any kind of argument or refutation of our belief for you have done no such thing. Just take your dogs swiimming without implying that that is somehow more important than actually discussing what the real presence.
People come here to discuss our understanding of the Bible–we should be able to discuss our differences of interpretation in a civil manner. You, Mr. Clover have been less than civil since your first post. No one is going to “win” a discussion over interpretation on one of these forums. All one can do is make a case–maybe plant a seed, an idea that may help someone when they are open to seeing or hearing the truth. We can often read the same Biblical passage without it speaking to us and then one day–the light goes on. We are all at different points in our walk with Christ and in our spiritual growth. These discussions should help us in that. I come here mainly just to read and consider and then investigate the arguments people make–it can be very helpful.
Why would you come to this discussion thread and open it with an uncalled for sarcastic remark? Does that serve your purpose? Does it help evangelize? Does it help lead anyone to Christ? Does it foster anyones spiritual growth or understanding of Scripture? Does it even help your spiritual growth?
May God send his spirit and his peace to you,
Mark
