How do I respond to this anti-Republican stuff?

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So a friend sent me this with the upcoming elections to try to sway me. I always vote Republican, but I’m not sure how to respond to these allegations. Can someone help me?

Things you have to believe to be a Republican:

Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary.

Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush’s daddy
made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad
guy when Bush needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion.

Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade
with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.

A woman can’t be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.

The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing veterans’ benefits and combat pay.

If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won’t have sex.

A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then
demand their cooperation and money.

Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.
HMOs and insurance companies have the
best interests of the public at heart.

Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.

A president lying about an extra-marital affair is an impeachable
offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which
thousands die is solid defense policy.

Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.

The public has a right to know about Hillary’s cattle trades, but George
Bush’s driving record is none of our business.

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a
conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers
for your recovery.

What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.

If you don’t send it to at least 10 other people, we’re likely to be
stuck with more Republicans in '06 and '08.
Friends don’t let friends vote Republican.
 
I’d honestly say the answer is to take a joke. If that’s supposed to sway you he’s not trying very hard. I get those things, except from the opposite point of view.

It’s just a joke. I learned how to take jokes at my expense and have been a lot less angry since.
 
zootjeff said:
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a
conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers
for your recovery.
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That’s actually a pretty spot-on shot, and it doesn’t just apply to conservative radio hosts. The ease of obtaining forgiveness for your failings is often directly related to your financial status and fame.
 
I’m apparently bored 😉 so here’s an item by item anyway.
Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary.
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One should not beleive everything Pat Robertson says. Or anything Pat Robertson says.
Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush’s daddy
made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him, and a bad
guy when Bush needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden” diversion.
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I agree, but it’s not like Bush…or Republicans…created this one.
Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is Communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
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Exaggerated, but there is some truth to that.
The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest
national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.
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I’ve heard this, but I don’t see it receiving serious governmental support.
A woman can’t be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
without regulation.
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I’m about through talking about abortion here, I never seem to actually leave people seeing what I actually wrote. But this admin is WAY too easy on big business.
The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
speeches, while slashing veterans’ benefits and combat pay.
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We have been doing that.
If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won’t have sex.
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I do think it true that conservative policy, in general, fails to understand the actual realities of teens and sex.
A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then
demand their cooperation and money.
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I don’t know that anyone can deny this, except it’s more like we demanded their co-operation and when they opted not to we bad mouthed them.
Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy, but providing
health care to all Americans is socialism.
HMOs and insurance companies have the
best interests of the public at heart.
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Optimal national health care should be a goal, but people make it sound so easy to obtain.
Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science, but
creationism should be taught in schools.
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Global warming is real, but I don’t even hear too much talk about smoking not causing cancer from the smokers themselves. I do agree that public school should teach empirically proven subjects.
A president lying about an extra-marital affair is an impeachable
offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which
thousands die is solid defense policy.
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This one has the bite of truth to it.
Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution,
which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.
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Another one with some hard truth in it. Though in my experience everyone wants to change the constitution, then say “Oh, it says I can.” ducks
The public has a right to know about Hillary’s cattle trades, but George
Bush’s driving record is none of our business.
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No real thoughts.
Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a
conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers
for your recovery.
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See above post.
What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
what Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
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This seems more a question of where people place their priorities.
 
"I do think it true that conservative policy, in general, fails to understand the actual realities of teens and sex. "

I have to disagree with you here. If we expect our kids to act like animals, they will. We need to expect decent behavior from them, and start by modelling it. Providing condoms in schools just tells them that we think they’re hopeless.

“Optimal national health care should be a goal, but people make it sound so easy to obtain.”

What’s so hard about it? Except for the fact that the HMOs and insurance companies have immense power and influence. Other countries have national health care, we’re the only western nation where people have to go bankrupt if they get sick.

I have a lot of problems with Bush’s activities. But I refuse to vote for the party of death, so that leaves Repubicans, sadly.
 
Viki59 said:
I have a lot of problems with Bush’s activities. But I refuse to vote for the party of death, so that leaves Repubicans, sadly.
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It is interesting that the welfare of the unborn is more important than the welfare of the world. But that’s the world we live in.
 
Viki59 said:
I have a lot of problems with Bush’s activities. But I refuse to vote for the party of death, so that leaves Repubicans, sadly.
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This is why we need a good third party alternative. After what I’ve seen over the past 6 years, I will not be voting republican for a long time.
 
zootjeff said:
It is interesting that the welfare of the unborn is more important than the welfare of the world. But that’s the world we live in.
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You must not be a Catholic. Not meant as a slam, just an observation.
 
Liberalsaved said:
A president lying about an extra-marital affair is an impeachable
offense, but a president lying to enlist support for a war in which
thousands die is solid defense policy.
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Except Clinton wasn’t impeached for having sex, he was impeached for lying under oath and impeding justice. And Bush was acting out of the bipartisan trust in the intelligence we had at the time.
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MooCowSteph said:
Except Clinton wasn’t impeached for having sex, he was impeached for lying under oath and impeding justice. And Bush was acting out of the bipartisan trust in the intelligence we had at the time.
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Clinton didn’t even have sex. He “showed privates,” so when they asked him about sex, he said, no I didn’t have sex (intercourse), and they got him on a technicality.
 
mary_bobo said:
You must not be a Catholic. Not meant as a slam, just an observation.
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What is wrong with that comment? Do you not agree that we have to give things up to fight for what we think is right?

Voting for Bush because he is the pro-life candidate means we have to live with his plunders…
 
zootjeff said:
What is wrong with that comment? Do you not agree that we have to give things up to fight for what we think is right?

Voting for Bush because he is the pro-life candidate means we have to live with his plunders…
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Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment about the welfare of the unborn being more important than the welfare of the world. And yes, I agree that sometimes you have to give up things to do the right thing. I guess this is an example of how things can be taken the wrong way when mortals post to a forum. The writer knows what he/she means, but the reader may not.
 
zootjeff said:
It is interesting that the welfare of the unborn is more important than the welfare of the world. But that’s the world we live in.
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Uh, I’d say the welfare of the unborn pretty much determines the welfare of the world.
 
zootjeff said:
Clinton didn’t even have sex. He “showed privates,” so when they asked him about sex, he said, no I didn’t have sex (intercourse), and they got him on a technicality.
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So you fall for that **** saying that oral sex isn’t sex?
 
zootjeff said:
What is wrong with that comment? Do you not agree that we have to give things up to fight for what we think is right?

Voting for Bush because he is the pro-life candidate means we have to live with his plunders…
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I vote for those I think are best on most serious issues that affect people daily. I am neither completely anti-abortion, nor am I of the mindset of the stereotypical liberal on the subject. However, I feel there are many many many important threats to life and security that republicans are not facing down, or are making worse. I, unfortunately, would not even vote for a Republican I liked (they do exist) because I know the interests of the majority.
 
MooCowSteph said:
So you fall for that **** saying that oral sex isn’t sex?
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I’ll say this; I don’t give two **** who he did what with. That’s his business. He ran the country well enough, and chose not to divulge details of his personal life.
 
Liberalsaved said:
I’ll say this; I don’t give two **** who he did what with. That’s his business. He ran the country well enough, and chose not to divulge details of his personal life.
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That’s really a matter for a whole 'nother thread. And one can choose to be private about one’s personal life unless one is under oath.
 
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